I'm actually shocked with the amount of people whom want damage, either way people on this forum have no clue about GT so whatever. :P

GT5 will not have damage simply because companies like Ferrari said they will not allow it. As said before Yamauchi is going all out or bust when it comes to damage, not that half assed Forza rubbish. (It's not even opinion, the damage is rubbish.)

I would rather the game released soon so I could finally play it, at most Sony will lose couple hundred thousand sales (:/) but 8+ million should be enough for Sony seeing how the other 1st/2nd party games are selling.

I've been crashing and damaging Ferraris in Forza 2 since 2007...

And whether you like Forza damage or not. GT5 P online without it is Mario Kart at best. A very horrible banger race online as the guy at the back plows through to the front without breaking. Wheras Forza 2 online is a proper race where people try not to connect each other, otherwise they will come last becasue they cant steer for damage. :)

Oh I see you never played Forza 2 or GT... Any GT.

GT5p especially you do not touch anyone, you lose speed. Races are determined in millieseconds, getting ahead of someone is a nightmare.

Sorry. I know many that would agree. First time I played GT5 P online I was 2nd into the first corner, only to have everyone behind run straight into me. I ended up last while they all stayed on and gained much more ground on me.

Also I own and have finished all GT1 - 4. Single player is fine. Online is where damage is needed as consequence.

damage in forza is better.

gt COPIED damage from forza.

gt will get lower metacritic than forza 3.

just like gtp got a FAR LOWER metacritic score than FORZA 2

GT5p is not a game. It's a demo. All prologues did low, they are to raise money for main game. Main games did better then either forza(Except GT4), it will follow suit again.

Where did you hear that GT5 won't have car damage?  I recall reading it will.  And why are you making out the lack of damage as a GOOD thing?  Damage is a consequence for driving badly, and makes you drive more realistically as a driver, because there are consequences.  You drive more wreckless when you know your car won't get any damage.

I believe arguing "perfect damage or no damage" is a weak argument.  Since driving sims on consoles aren't perfect, nor will they likely EVER be, then might as well argue that all driving games should be arcade racers where you never have to take your foot off the gas peddle and use a brake.

To me your comment about GT5 is a rationalization for Gran Turismo not having it.  And if it does get it, but it isn't great, you will end changing your tune that it is GREAT it is in there, and no longer say it has damage.

I haven't played F2 online for quite a bit, but I remember most if not all games either had damage enabled or it was a ghost race.

I can imagine playing bumper cars online must be troublesome =)

Companies like Ferrari said no to damage which Yamauchi wanted which is not the rubbish in Forza 2 where you get little bumps and what not. Online with the damage Yamuchi wants would be terrible as a car would be totalled in no time.

"Perfect damage or no damage" is not even an arguement, it is simply the truth and you must accept. The man who created the GT franchise said it, you obviously have no clue about him or me with your final sentence being absolutely comical. :/