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Kasz216 said:
That Guy said:
Even looking at sports, football is the most popular sports business, ATM. Its also no coincidence that they have the weakest union as well.

Why is that not a coincidence?  How are unions hurting baseball and basketball?

 

 

The players run baseball. All the contracts are guaranteed if you sign a guy for 200 milllion dollars over 10 years and he breaks his leg and never sees a pitch, you're still on the hook for that 200 milllion dollars. 

the Players also will never agree to have a salary cap, so that means that there will always be a rich/poor disparity between the large market teams (aka the Yankees) and the small market teams (like the Pirates)

Basketball is starting to be the same way. There is a cap right now for Basketball, but most of the contracts are guaranteed. Ticket sales are down right now, so about 50% of the teams are underwater this year when it comes to expensives vs. revenue. 

Football has the most horrible system, IMO. Most of their contracts are worth pretty much nothing. If a guy got hurt, the team could cut that guy on the spot and take a minimal salary hit.

 

 

 



I hate unions.

Especially here in Sweden where the big workers unions always have been supporting the socialist party.



That Guy said:
Kasz216 said:
That Guy said:
Even looking at sports, football is the most popular sports business, ATM. Its also no coincidence that they have the weakest union as well.

Why is that not a coincidence?  How are unions hurting baseball and basketball?

 

 

The players run baseball. All the contracts are guaranteed if you sign a guy for 200 milllion dollars over 10 years and he breaks his leg and never sees a pitch, you're still on the hook for that 200 milllion dollars. 

the Players also will never agree to have a salary cap, so that means that there will always be a rich/poor disparity between the large market teams (aka the Yankees) and the small market teams (like the Pirates)

Basketball is starting to be the same way. There is a cap right now for Basketball, but most of the contracts are guaranteed. Ticket sales are down right now, so about 50% of the teams are underwater this year when it comes to expensives vs. revenue. 

Football has the most horrible system, IMO. Most of their contracts are worth pretty much nothing. If a guy got hurt, the team could cut that guy on the spot and take a minimal salary hit.

 

None of that explains why football is more popular.

Football has the most horrible system because football in general is the most brutal sport there is.

Basketball... The union doesn't run the NBA.

The last time the Owners and Union faced off the Owners kicked the Unions ass.

If the owners need to they'll simply cause a "Lock out" and the majority of the union workers will fall apart and give in because they wasted all their money.

Which is the same reason the autoworkers have been backpeddling for years.

Most of them suck at saving... and NEED that money.  The Union workers have been backpedaling on everything... but they won't give up their pensions or they're healthcare because they're counting on that.

 



We need Unions to protect it's workfull and make sure that workers rights are upheld.  But I do think the Unions sometimes go to far.  Look at France, when one Union goes on strike they all go on strike and cripple the country for a few days and every other country around it.

At my works, the Union defends some of our no-good workers (Dead legs), it defends the ones who always come to work late, dress suffy and always seem to get away with things.  While we have some hard workers who never get a thankyou from them.

A few years back we voted on Strike action because some dead leg got the sacked.  This guy was a lazy no good bum to be honest, but I think only about 10 people voted for Strike action while the rest voted No to it.  In my view and other workers who voted No, was 'Why Should I lose out on my wages for this lazy losser'.

It was not like he was sacked for nothing, he stole, rude to me and my fellow workers and so on.  This is what sort of people the Union defends.



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Unions connected to Government are EVIL

they vote to take money for themselves

UAW is taking tax money

they are robbing the poor



Repent or be destroyed

When three companies are selling over $100,000,000,000 in products to over 5 Million customers in one year in the United States alone I don't think you can make the argument that they are selling a product that no one wants and that is why they're going out of business ...

The fact of the matter is that American cars are being designed, manufactured and sold at a level where they are far less profitable when compared to their international competition when you factor in everything (including unfunded liabilities). When you look at the differences in costs between the Japaneese and American automobile manufacturers, the primary differences are the cost of labour (the manufacturing, R&D, Marketing and Management costs are similar) and the cost of unfunded liabilities (the Japaneese companies do not have the size of pensions and medical benefits to pay out to retired workers).

Now, people fault American automobile manufacturers for focusing on their large vehicles but the American manufacturers only had a large enough margin on their big vehicles to cover the costs associated with the contracts they created with their unions ... The (often more than) $10,000 profit these companies made on large SUVs allowed them to pay for these contracts in a way that the (often less than) $1,000 profit on the sub-compact car never could.