ChichiriMuyo said:
Legend11 said:
ChichiriMuyo said: I think Nintendo stopping Freeloader isn't such an issue because it was an unlicensed product. Everyone else needs a license from Nintendo to put software on their machine, why would they be any different? And besides that, even if this doesn't apply to every game, there are a number of games that can only be sold in a given reason for leagal purposes. Stopping the people who made Freeloader would have been in both Nintendo's interests and the interests of their 3rd party developers. Not that it's a big issue... |
What does licensed or unlicensed product have to do with anything? What if Sony during the Playstation 1 or 2 days did an update to their firmware that rendered all unlicensed memory cards useless, would you be supporting Sony in that case? What Freeloader did wasn't illegal. What Nintendo did was in it's own best interest and very anti-consumer and isn't that a part of what this is all about, a company that controls a platform using it to their advantage to force people developing products for their platform out of business and removing choice from consumers? |
Nintendo's platform are their product, and they have right to decide how that product will be handled. And given copyright laws and other issues, it's often in their best interest to maintain those rights when it comes to a product such as Freeloader. That product, and any other that permits the playing of games from another region, did allow individuals to break the law, and very few companies like to be known for allowing that. As for blocking out existing memory cards with a firmware update, well, that's an entire different matter, now isn't it? Notice me commenting on it before? No? Why? Because Sony doesn't have the legal responsibility to do that. Whether or not they have the legal right is something I cannot speak for, but I can say the situation is entirely different from what Nintendo did because Sony didn't try to get rid of a product (assuming the Magic Gate situation is what you are implying here) that was infringing upon IP rights and international copyright laws. |
And Microsoft Windows isn't a Microsoft's product and you feel Nintendo has a right to decide how their product is handled but Microsoft doesn't? You seriously don't see the double standard?
As for Freeloader allowing people to break the law, how so? Doesn't it require another product with it in order to break the law? Ever wonder why Nintendo didn't take them to court? It's because in some countries Freeloader is legal (Australia for example) and in other countries the laws that protect region coding may go against international trade agreements and Nintendo likely doesn't want to take it to court in case Datel wins, especially in the European Union where there has already been an investigation into region coding of movies (now please tell me if the following doesn't sound like what Freeloader is trying to prevent):
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=SPEECH/01/275&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en
European Commissioner for Competition Policy
Content, Competition and Consumers: Innovation and Choice
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"Whilst the prices of many products are higher in the EU than in the US, the major film production companies in agreement with the major equipment manufacturers have introduced a worldwide regional coding system for DVDs. Under this system, a DVD sold in one of the world's six regions cannot be played on a DVD player sold in another region. The thrust of the complaints that we have been receiving is that such a system allows the film production companies to charge higher DVD prices in the EU because EU consumers are artificially prevented from purchasing DVDs from overseas.
As a direct result of these complaints, we have initiated contacts with the major film production companies. We will examine closely what they have to say. Whilst I naturally recognise the legitimate protection which is conferred by intellectual property rights, it is important that, if the complaints are confirmed on the facts, we do not permit a system which provides greater protection than the intellectual property rights themselves, where such a system could be used as a smoke-screen to allow firms to maintain artificially high prices or to deny choice to consumers.
My services have had contacts on this issue with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, which has also sought clarifications from the major film production companies. I have noted with great interest the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's conclusion that the regional coding system imposes a 'severe restriction of choice' on consumers. The Commission will need to determine whether there are similarly negative effects in the EU which could fall within the scope of the competition rules."