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The question here is would you even care if they are releasing it 1-2 years after the first one or over using it? Especially if you are a fan of the series. I want to play my favorite franchise every year. As far as I can remember Final Fantasy was released every year on PS1 and early years of the PS2? I don't want to wait 3-5 years for X game or Y game.  I want to play as many great and favorite games in my entire life. Nuff said



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senseinobaka said:

So I hear everyone clamoring over God of War 3 coming out this year. Thats cool I guess...except its the 4th freaking GoW game in 5 years. But it seems sony likes to spam their successful franchises.

Ratchet and Clanks come out every year, sometimes twice

Patapon 2 is coming out...and Patapon is hardly a year old.

Jak and Daxter, Resistance, Wipeout, Motostorm, etc

They must have sequelitis or something.

 

Do you feel their franchises are overused? -DISCUSS-

 

1) Well, duh. There was a PS2 game in 2005, then in 2007 (like Gears of War), then a game on PSP (by a different developer), then one on PS3, three years after GoW2, and two years after Chains of Olympus (it's not releasing in 2009)

2) It's bad that Insomniac has enough dedication to make a Ratchet and Clank game every year? Besides, even that's an exaggeration.

One in 2002, one in 2003, one in 2004, one in 2005, a PSP one in 2007, a PS3 one in 2007, a downloadable game in 2008, and a PS3 game in 2009. How is that overusing, when Microsoft are releasing two Halo games on the same console in the same year, and that's not overusing?

3) Patapon 2: Two games in the series, hardly overusing...

4) Jak? 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009. Again, not even once a year.

5) Resistance has had a game every two years, like most game series.

6) WipEout: 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007, 2008. 9 games in 13 years.

7) MotorStorm? A game every two years.

No, their franchises are not overused. You can't overuse a franchise until the character appears in over 10 games every year (Mario, or even Sonic). One game a year is not overusing a franchise. It's not like Sony are desperately reliant on one franchise, they just release a lot of different games at the same time. Is Call of Duty overused? Is Deca Sports overused?

EDIT: And I don't get why you are spinning the fact that Sony makes several quality games in different genres and making it a bad thing...



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How many new IP has Sony made this generation? How many has Nintendo / MS? I'm curious because I think there could be a correlation, more games being released = more chances of making new game for existing IP, considering Sony now has the the biggest number of studio of the 3 console maker...

Just this gen, Sony has created the following new IP at retail level:

* Uncharted
* Resistance
* Heavenly Sword
* Lair, Folklore
* Eye of Judgement
* Afrika
* Hot Shot Golf
* LittleBigPlanet
* Motorstorm
* Warhawk

Would anyone be able to supply me a list of new Nintendo / MS IP this gen?

Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Wii Music um... need help here guys, not a wii person...

MS I think is a given, they do not have enough in house studio to create sequals at a steady rate.




They only franchise that they overuse is IMO Ratchet and Clank, but it's not like Sony has anything to say there. Insomniac wants to make them, do you really think that Sony would tell them to stop making Ratchet games?

Besides the Secret Agent Clank game is a franchise of it's own based on what I've read in this thread, so you can't really count it as a Ratchet game.

Jak X and Daxter are also franchises of their own, so since 2001(2002?) there has only been 3 games. Hardly overusing, don't you think?

Sony makes new franchises all the time, who made more IPs this gen, Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft? I think it balances out Ratchet and Clank. :P



silly op this is not the nintendo forum



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mibuokami said:
How many new IP has Sony made this generation? How many has Nintendo / MS? I'm curious because I think there could be a correlation, more games being released = more chances of making new game for existing IP, considering Sony now has the the biggest number of studio of the 3 console maker...

Just this gen, Sony has created the following new IP at retail level:

* Uncharted
* Resistance
* Heavenly Sword
* Lair, Folklore
* Eye of Judgement
* Afrika
* Hot Shot Golf
* LittleBigPlanet
* Motorstorm
* Warhawk

Would anyone be able to supply me a list of new Nintendo / MS IP this gen?

Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Wii Music um... need help here guys, not a wii person...

MS I think is a given, they do not have enough in house studio to create sequals at a steady rate.

 

actually Hot Shots Golf is the only sony game that saw the light on every sony system PS1,PS2,PSP and PS3

you could add WKC to your list sony owns the IP



TheThunder said:
mibuokami said:
How many new IP has Sony made this generation? How many has Nintendo / MS? I'm curious because I think there could be a correlation, more games being released = more chances of making new game for existing IP, considering Sony now has the the biggest number of studio of the 3 console maker...

Just this gen, Sony has created the following new IP at retail level:

* Uncharted
* Resistance
* Heavenly Sword
* Lair, Folklore
* Eye of Judgement
* Afrika
* Hot Shot Golf
* LittleBigPlanet
* Motorstorm
* Warhawk

Would anyone be able to supply me a list of new Nintendo / MS IP this gen?

Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Wii Music um... need help here guys, not a wii person...

MS I think is a given, they do not have enough in house studio to create sequals at a steady rate.

 

actually Hot Shots Golf is the only sony game that saw the light on every sony system PS1,PS2,PSP and PS3

you could add WKC to your list sony owns the IP

Gran Turismo will join it, soon. And Syphon Filter. Ratchet and Clank is on three out of the four.



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senseinobaka said:
Well alot of people mention Nintendo. In my opinion nintendo actually does the opposite to an extreme. A franchise game like Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Metriod, or even Smash Brothers, are rarely release (about once a generation).

BUT they over expose their characthers by placing them into other games like Mario Party or Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. Pretty much any nintendo character can be whored out anywhere at any time and very cheaply.

This isnt what I'm talking about in this thread. What sony does is make a franchise game almost once a year... Imagine nintendo making Smash Brothers every year. Imagine if we had as many Mario Galaxy games since 2006 as we did Resistance games. That would be a problem.

 

O really ? Cause the way you count games PSP games for you count too. Then surely DS games must also count..The games below are just wii and ds games (not including VC) released that includes mario in their name. Sure some of them are unrelated to the original platforming element. But regardless. What sony is doing is releasing a new game in Some of their franchises (with the exception of singstar which you really can't count) every other year. That's right. Thers a ps3 resistance game every other year. Meaning every 2 years 1 game comes out from that franchise. It seems to be the same with uncharted and rachet and clank.

 

The other rachet and clank was a psn title which mean it doesn't count as a retail game (just like i left out the vc games on the list below) and the other resistance you refere too is a psn game. In other words a game for a completely different console.

Do sony overuse their franchises ? No. On the contrary. They might infact under-use them instead.

Unlike some other companies they don't milk their franchises.

 

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6 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Sega 14,807 N/A 4.21m 22nd Aug 08
7 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games Unknown 0 N/A 0.00m 12th Feb 09
8 Mario Hoops 3 on 3 Nintendo 2,090 N/A 1.83m 30th Dec 08
9 Mario Kart DS Nintendo 29,772 N/A 14.88m 17th Nov 08
10 Mario Party DS Nintendo 12,568 N/A 5.68m 25th Nov 07
11 Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis Nintendo 2,420 N/A 1.44m 30th Dec 08
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113 Mario Party 8 Nintendo 28,579 N/A 6.53m 01st Feb 08
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Check out my game about moles ^

^I just did a search:

There have been 119 games with Mario in the title.

Wow.



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Singstar, Ratchet and maybe Socom.

Everything else, no.

Now let's talk Nintendo with Mario... Let's not forget about the Wii___ games Wii....



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