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Phrancheyez on 29 April 2009

I love how theres the

"Does Sony overuse their franchises?"

thread right below the

"RUMOR:Resident Evil 3 coming to Wii"

thread...haha.



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Onyxmeth on 29 April 2009
Dr.KennethNoisewater said:
lol no they almost make more new IP's they they do sequels. Nintendo, on the other hand, overuses franchises. Besides "Wii Whatever" has Nintendo made any new IP this gen? Serious question.

Brain Age
Nintendogs
Elite Beat Agents/Ouendan
Card Hero DS
Band Bros.
Jump Superstars
ASH
Personal Trainer(Cooking, Math, Walking)
Big Brain Academy
Clubhouse Games
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Electroplankton
English Training
Flash Focus
Ting's Rosey Rupeeland
Magical Starsign
Master of Illusion
Mystery Case Files: Millionheir
Professor Layton
Soma Bringer
Trace Memory
Endless Ocean
Captain Rainbow
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Rock n' Roll Climber

This is in addition to the Wii branded series(which are all very different games anyways) and I'm fairly sure I've missed a few on top of that.

 



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Jo21 on 29 April 2009

nintendo and microsoft are worse.


but seriously i dont care as long they are good games though i really think they should go and change their storyline, system like FF does.
it keeps being fresh, even at it 13th game.

because gameplay story characters are never the same.



iron_megalith on 29 April 2009

Please.. Just look at Mario. How many frickin marios do we have!?



saicho on 30 April 2009
Christhor said:
saicho said:
Kantor said:
senseinobaka said:

So I hear everyone clamoring over God of War 3 coming out this year. Thats cool I guess...except its the 4th freaking GoW game in 5 years. But it seems sony likes to spam their successful franchises.

Ratchet and Clanks come out every year, sometimes twice

Patapon 2 is coming out...and Patapon is hardly a year old.

Jak and Daxter, Resistance, Wipeout, Motostorm, etc

They must have sequelitis or something.

 

Do you feel their franchises are overused? -DISCUSS-

 

1) Well, duh. There was a PS2 game in 2005, then in 2007 (like Gears of War), then a game on PSP (by a different developer), then one on PS3, three years after GoW2, and two years after Chains of Olympus (it's not releasing in 2009)

2) It's bad that Insomniac has enough dedication to make a Ratchet and Clank game every year? Besides, even that's an exaggeration.

One in 2002, one in 2003, one in 2004, one in 2005, a PSP one in 2007, a PS3 one in 2007, a downloadable game in 2008, and a PS3 game in 2009. How is that overusing, when Microsoft are releasing two Halo games on the same console in the same year, and that's not overusing?

3) Patapon 2: Two games in the series, hardly overusing...

4) Jak? 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009. Again, not even once a year.

5) Resistance has had a game every two years, like most game series.

6) WipEout: 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007, 2008. 9 games in 13 years.

7) MotorStorm? A game every two years.

No, their franchises are not overused. You can't overuse a franchise until the character appears in over 10 games every year (Mario, or even Sonic). One game a year is not overusing a franchise. It's not like Sony are desperately reliant on one franchise, they just release a lot of different games at the same time. Is Call of Duty overused? Is Deca Sports overused?

EDIT: And I don't get why you are spinning the fact that Sony makes several quality games in different genres and making it a bad thing...

a character is not a franchise though. Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers are different franchises although they both have Mario. If you have to count the two as one franchise, Super Smash Brother Brawl would be a franchise of Metal Geear Solid 4 since it has Snake in it and a Zelda franchise and a Kirby franchise and a Pokemon franchise and a Metroid franchise and even a Mother franchise.

@Dgc1808

how are Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Play and Wii Music in the same franchise?

 

 

I didn't see him mention SSB anywhere... But really now, isn't Metal Gear and Metal Gear Solid the same franchise? I'd say they are, but by this logic it is not. Jak & Daxter is not the same franchise as Jak II and 3 either, since they changed the name, the 2 and 3 just indicates how many years it was since the original franchise. And then they made two new franchise out of that again with Jak X and Daxter.

@ Wii sports, fit, play and music: It's not the same franchise any longer? I remember people saying stuff like "By the end of the game the Wii Franchise will be the best selling franchise of all time!". It's only a franchise when it comes to sales then? It's the same franchise in the sense that they all use new innovation that could only have been possible on the Wii.

So you are implying Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers are the same the franchise as well as Mario Striker, Mario Baseballl, Dr. Mario and Mario Galaxy although Mario Kart is a kart racing game, Super Smash Brother is a fighting game, Mario Striker is a soccer game, Mario Baseball is a baseball game, Dr. Mario is a puzzle game and Mario Galaxy is a platformer. It's all because they have Mario in it?

I was not aware that Jake & Daxter games changed from patformer to other genre when Jak II and 3 were released.

@ Wii games: so there are different definitions on what franchise is because it's on Wii?

 



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Time Lincoln on 30 April 2009

Sony least of all over uses their franchises. Although they can still put out some good games Nintendo over does it a bit with the old franchises.



Jaos on 30 April 2009
Christhor said:
saicho said:
Kantor said:
senseinobaka said:

So I hear everyone clamoring over God of War 3 coming out this year. Thats cool I guess...except its the 4th freaking GoW game in 5 years. But it seems sony likes to spam their successful franchises.

Ratchet and Clanks come out every year, sometimes twice

Patapon 2 is coming out...and Patapon is hardly a year old.

Jak and Daxter, Resistance, Wipeout, Motostorm, etc

They must have sequelitis or something.

 

Do you feel their franchises are overused? -DISCUSS-

 

1) Well, duh. There was a PS2 game in 2005, then in 2007 (like Gears of War), then a game on PSP (by a different developer), then one on PS3, three years after GoW2, and two years after Chains of Olympus (it's not releasing in 2009)

2) It's bad that Insomniac has enough dedication to make a Ratchet and Clank game every year? Besides, even that's an exaggeration.

One in 2002, one in 2003, one in 2004, one in 2005, a PSP one in 2007, a PS3 one in 2007, a downloadable game in 2008, and a PS3 game in 2009. How is that overusing, when Microsoft are releasing two Halo games on the same console in the same year, and that's not overusing?

3) Patapon 2: Two games in the series, hardly overusing...

4) Jak? 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009. Again, not even once a year.

5) Resistance has had a game every two years, like most game series.

6) WipEout: 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007, 2008. 9 games in 13 years.

7) MotorStorm? A game every two years.

No, their franchises are not overused. You can't overuse a franchise until the character appears in over 10 games every year (Mario, or even Sonic). One game a year is not overusing a franchise. It's not like Sony are desperately reliant on one franchise, they just release a lot of different games at the same time. Is Call of Duty overused? Is Deca Sports overused?

EDIT: And I don't get why you are spinning the fact that Sony makes several quality games in different genres and making it a bad thing...

a character is not a franchise though. Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers are different franchises although they both have Mario. If you have to count the two as one franchise, Super Smash Brother Brawl would be a franchise of Metal Geear Solid 4 since it has Snake in it and a Zelda franchise and a Kirby franchise and a Pokemon franchise and a Metroid franchise and even a Mother franchise.

@Dgc1808

how are Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Play and Wii Music in the same franchise?

 

 

I didn't see him mention SSB anywhere... But really now, isn't Metal Gear and Metal Gear Solid the same franchise? I'd say they are, but by this logic it is not. Jak & Daxter is not the same franchise as Jak II and 3 either, since they changed the name, the 2 and 3 just indicates how many years it was since the original franchise. And then they made two new franchise out of that again with Jak X and Daxter.

@ Wii sports, fit, play and music: It's not the same franchise any longer? I remember people saying stuff like "By the end of the game the Wii Franchise will be the best selling franchise of all time!". It's only a franchise when it comes to sales then? It's the same franchise in the sense that they all use new innovation that could only have been possible on the Wii.

 

Did you just imply that Mario Kart Wii, Mario Party 9 and Super Mario Galaxy are basically the same game, since they feature the same character and have all Mario in the title? o.O

And Wii Sports and Wii Chess are probably in the same franchise too, because ... they are so similar? Or wait, they have the Miis (only an assumption, didn't play Wii Chess)

I think you misremember, as I have seen people speak of the Wii series, but not a franchise...

@topic: I don't think you can speak of overuse unless there's at least 4 or 5 games out in that franchise. Also, it would only bother me if the quality sinks or it gets boring because of being too similar.



Nick on 30 April 2009

Some of you are driving me nuts.

Since 1985 on consoles in North America there have been:

Super Mario Bro's
Super Mario Bro's 2
Super Mario Bro's 3
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy

Count them - 7 actual Mario's in 24 years. I might have missed one and I didn't include main Mario's on handhelds, but people seem to think that any game with "Mario" in the title is part of the main franchise. Mario is in a lot of games, but doesn't have a lot in his main series. All of those other games are in their own category and other than Mario Party are not released very frequently. Same thing with their other franchises.

7 main console Zelda's in 22 years
5 console Metroids since 22 years
4 Mario Karts since 17 years
3 Smash bro's since 10 years

I don't think any of them are overused.

OT: I don't think Sony overuses their franchises either. They should continue making games as long as they are making good games and people are enjoying them. Give the people what they want.



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--OkeyDokey-- on 30 April 2009

Some, yes. Ratchet, Buzz, Singstar for example.

I don't know why you'd single out Sony. Activision, Nintendo, SE, Capcom and SEGA are much worse offenders.

And please, don't even try to pretend that Mario spinoffs aren't part of the franchise. Funny how they DO count when the Mario is cited as the highest selling videogame franchise in history...



Zkuq on 30 April 2009

A few of them are probably getting overused but in general Sony seems to create something new as well.