City17 said:
But whatever, fanboys have never been accused of being logical!
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Yup, you should know
City17 said:
But whatever, fanboys have never been accused of being logical!
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Yup, you should know
Infinity said:
Good point, but 1) they are not down substantially, 2) Do you seriously believe the PS3 will do worse YOY again at this time next year? This is clearly not a continuing trend for PS3 sales. 3) Even with the 1 year drop in sales, the PS3 is still outselling the 360 in the same time frame! |
Huh? what? That is false every way you can look at it. The 360 is WoW outselling the PS3 of 1 year ago (if you're looking at aligned launches). The 360 is currently outselling the PS3. And with the "1 year drop in sales" we can't do an aligned launch comparison of the 360's 2009 sales until the PS3's 2010 sales are in.
City17 said: Reality is reality and no matter which way you want to spin it, same point in time PS3 IS winning! Sorry to break it to you but open your eyes. The only time that this will not be true is when the PS3 is NOT ahead of the xbox, same point in time... If that happens then you can have a same point in time victory celebration... Until then deal with reality people!!!!!! |
Well put. My reality says the current point in time is May 2009, and that the 360 is over 8 million units ahead of the PS3. What's the date in your reality, and what are the sales?
Jereel Hunter said:
Well put. My reality says the current point in time is May 2009, and that the 360 is over 8 million units ahead of the PS3. What's the date in your reality, and what are the sales? |
Infinity said:
Being first to market brings an advantage? Tell that to the following consoles: Fairchild Channel F (came out before Atari 2600) Turbo-Grafx 16 (came out before SNES) 3DO (came out before Playstation) Dreamcast (came out before PS2)
Its the Xbots who are "deluding themselves" into thinking just because it had a head start in install base that it will sell the most consoles when all is said and done.
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I think you completely missed the point. Rereading my post, though, I suppose I can clarify, just a bit.
It was said earlier in this thread, and it's worth repeating: entering the market first brings with it risk, along with the potential advantage that comes from having your product available before the competition.
In this scenario, it seems to have paid off--Microsoft has done what they set out to do by eating into Sony's market share while significantly growing the Xbox brand. A lot of this would not have been possible had they released the Xbox 360 at the same time, or later, than the Playstation 3. Granted, early entry is hardly a guarantee--the examples you posted above are more than proof of this.
Regardless, there's no denying that being first to market, at least in part, afforded the Xbox 360 the 8 million console lead it currently has. Aligning dates is meaningless--the market is constantly changing, and momentum swings, console cost, economic downturns, and all manner of other economic and market changes make it extremely difficult to predict the future strictly based on past performance without considering the present state of the market.
The only "delusion" I see in this thread are the absurd justifications made by fanboys to convince themselves that the PS3 is somehow the victor against the Xbox 360, because "aligning the dates" makes it so. Now, obviously we can't predict if the 360 will maintain its lead for the rest of the generation, or if it will eventually be overtaken by the Playstation 3. But I have a much more important question:
Do we really give a shit?
Given the large lead that the 360 enjoys, even if the Playstation 3 ends up selling more consoles at the end of the generation, it will be far too late for it to even remotely matter.
scat398 said: These numbers are a good sign for the PS3. Once Sony can afford a price cut sales should increase nicely. I think the only thing of great concern for Sony should be the alligned launch numbers for NA. The 360 is way ahead even without the headstart. And now that Europe and more importantly England has adopted the 360 a price cut may not be enough to capture either of those areas. |
LMAO dude Europe has not adopted the 360, PS3 has already outsold it in pretty much every country other then the uk.
Even with a much higher price and later launch PS3 has whooped on the 360.
twingo said:
LMAO dude Europe has not adopted the 360, PS3 has already outsold it in pretty much every country other then the uk. Even with a much higher price and later launch PS3 has whooped on the 360.
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Maybe you should check the last few months of sales then, the 360 is outselling the PS3 in every country except Germany (ps3 ahead by less than 1k) and "others"
Last time I checked (yesterday) the 360 has continued to outsell the PS3 in Europe for over 6 months with 360 ahead by over 1 million units and rising,
Sony fanboys are so deluded, pure comedy gold!
kowenicki said: I wonder if PS3beats360 realises how many posts he is clocking up that can be thrown in his face over the coming 12 months, when everything he says is proved to be the pile of BS we already know it is. |
lol, you think he'll still be around in 12 months? I don't know, he doesn't seem like the "long term" kind of user to me...
gergroy said:
lol, you think he'll still be around in 12 months? I don't know, he doesn't seem like the "long term" kind of user to me...
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I think he will change his name to, yup, you guessed it "360beatsPS3"
FKNetwork said:
Maybe you should check the last few months of sales then, the 360 is outselling the PS3 in every country except Germany (ps3 ahead by less than 1k) and "others" Last time I checked (yesterday) the 360 has continued to outsell the PS3 in Europe for over 6 months with 360 ahead by over 1 million units and rising,
Sony fanboys are so deluded, pure comedy gold!
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xbox fanboys are so dense its priceless.
LT sales child, PS3 sales are above 360 overall pretty much everywhere other then in the uk. Is that so hard to understand ?
Thus it looks like 360 is far from adopted by the Europeans, most major makrets like France Italy Spain Germany seem to be rather anti 360.