Who here thinks the OP only makes these kind of threads and wants them to be true?

Nintendo 64 and Gamecube Made Money
They never lost money so the rules of failure are diff. I think it is an interesting subject

Mummelmann said: Who here thinks the OP only makes these kind of threads and wants them to be true?

well... now you mention it.  But I shall remain politely silent.

hasn't PSP gave Nintendo a run for the handheld market? I thought the PSP division is in a healthy state for Sony...

Again, I doubt Sony is going to put much effort into R&D for PS4.... just make PS4 having 2 x Cell Processor, put some more ram, redesign it and call it the PS4...

Seriously, with the PS3 laying the ground work, Sony's got a pretty solid ground to build on for the next system... Why would anyone think Sony is going to put more money into R&D for PS4... Not to mention that if Sony do use the "upgrade" approach for PS4, development for games would be quite easy too having similar structure, and Backward compatibility is probably in there too.

I dont understand why this guy hates the PS3 so much.

The PS3 model is known as "razor and blades." The goal is to lose money innitially and make it back in the future. Becuase of this, the PS3 is not profitable. Nintendo was able to turn a good profit while selling only ~1/6 of the PS2's sales. This leads me to beleive that the PS3 is not profitable or sustainable.

Mummelmann said: Who here thinks the OP only makes these kind of threads and wants them to be true?

Many people have been underminding the demise of the brand.

The Playstation brand is at it's last legs. Remember that Sony is not a game company. They can easily move away from this, or make it a niche (where it is irrelivent to the company, but still kept on). This system has yet to make a profit and the cycle is about over. People are proclaiming bad sales as good becuase they are slightly less crappy then last week's sales.

The system is in last place and losing money. It is eating the profits of the former systems. The company went under a massive restructuring (this means things are bad people). The global economy is in a recession which means it will be harder to opperate (meaning that you can't carry dead weight). Nintendo has disrupted the industry (meaning Sony and Microsoft are done anyway). Microsoft's goal is to stop Sony, perhaps even go as far as to kill the brand. They have shown tht they will take the lose to do just that. Sony wants their system to be profitable (meaning they are fighting a foe who does not eat, sleep or breath, but they have to).

The last paragraph is reasons why Sony will kill the brand (or it will die). The only thing that makes the systems still relevent is that third parties do not want to support the Wii. Japanese third parties are slowly moving to Nintendo';s system. I doubt the new systems will have any steam to keep going (the Wii will long surpass both systems. The 10 year play is more of an attribute of the Wii).

There isn't much reason they will keep the brand. There are fewer reasons why it wont all fall apart soon anyway.

Smashchu2 said: Mummelmann said: Who here thinks the OP only makes these kind of threads and wants them to be true? Many people have been underminding the demise of the brand. The Playstation brand is at it's last legs. Remember that Sony is not a game company. They can easily move away from this, or make it a niche (where it is irrelivent to the company, but still kept on). This system has yet to make a profit and the cycle is about over. People are proclaiming bad sales as good becuase they are slightly less crappy then last week's sales. The system is in last place and losing money. It is eating the profits of the former systems. The company went under a massive restructuring (this means things are bad people). The global economy is in a recession which means it will be harder to opperate (meaning that you can't carry dead weight). Nintendo has disrupted the industry (meaning Sony and Microsoft are done anyway). Microsoft's goal is to stop Sony, perhaps even go as far as to kill the brand. They have shown tht they will take the lose to do just that. Sony wants their system to be profitable (meaning they are fighting a foe who does not eat, sleep or breath, but they have to). The last paragraph is reasons why Sony will kill the brand (or it will die). The only thing that makes the systems still relevent is that third parties do not want to support the Wii. Japanese third parties are slowly moving to Nintendo';s system. I doubt the new systems will have any steam to keep going (the Wii will long surpass both systems. The 10 year play is more of an attribute of the Wii). There isn't much reason they will keep the brand. There are fewer reasons why it wont all fall apart soon anyway.

I think that Microsoft and Nintendo will move on to digital downloads and Sony wont follow, because its not a hard format and cannot fathom making a controlled profit off of it. The number one way to scare Sony away is take away hard formats from them. For example...look how shitty they've been doing in the music genre since people made the switch to IPOD's. They were the most sought after when they had CD's and cassette tapes. There was one more hard format they tried to make after CD's, but it flopped because the IPOD came out. Well anyway, take them to where they wont follow or where they will suck big time.

At its last legs?....so should I expect the system to just die this year or next year?...I really think you´re overreacting here.

well if it is. Why did nintendo stay?