Now, for the record, the ps3 is my console of choice this generation so this post has nothing to do with my personal preference, but moreso something I'm wondering.

When the ps3 was first manufactured at $850 and sold for $600, at a loss of $250 Sony must have known they would suffer a huge loss if they were to sell great numbers. Hence, if they would have came in first they wouldn't have been able to take the initial loss, which leads me to conclude that Sony's intention was never to be first afterall.

I've been skeptical as to the matter of the ps3 being a trojan horse for blu-ray in the past, but this makes me reconsider. Afterall, should blu-ray succeed, the movie industry is a much larger industry than gaming and just might prove to be the better prospect. Let me know what you guys think.

They learned their lesson this gen.
And will most likely know better next gen.

sony is already making a lot of money on BR deals.

PS3 is also now making money, though not solely on hardware.

With the intense competition this gen, shouldn't you be professing how incredible they are doing and how smart the decisions that are being made are? They have ~20% of the market share with a 400$ console. It has never happened before.

Yes Sony, isn't doing as well as last gen, but let's face it, Sony set that bar itself. Sony is doing fine at the moment. They are smart brilliant people and will be on top once again in the future.

Sony overestimated their brand name. It's as simple as that IMHO.

I don't think i buy the trojan horse arguement. It's more likely they just thought they would succeed anyway.

I mean... is there really more money in BR then Videogames?

"When it comes to "packaged" home entertainment software, video games had their biggest year yet in 2008—so big, in fact, that they finally eclipsed combined DVD/Blu-ray sales, and according to projections, there's no turning back.
Industry research firm Media Control GfK International (via Video Business and Engadget HD) reports that global video game sales gobbled up about 53 percent of the "packaged home entertainment" market last year, with that figure expected to climb to 57 percent in 2009."

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/34790

Seems like the games industry is bigger.

Not to mention Sony gets more per game then per movie liscensing wise.

ps3 software = $

For the Blu-ray part...

Blu-ray will Not succeed because of Portable DvD players, and more importantly In vehicle DvD players..

If they start to package DvD's with Blu-Ray I can see Blu-Ray getting a leg up..

but... families like mine go into a store to purchase a movie we think:

DvD: I can watch it on All my TV's in my home, at the park, in the vehicle..

Blu-Ray: I can watch it in the living room, I can use the Digital version on my PC... and try...try... and get it to my cell phone..

If Sony made the PS3 without Blu-Ray (Held them back, still cost them money) it would be #1 with no doubt... but Sony just has to shove another format down your throat and make you B_E_L_I_E_V_E it's the new format and everyone should own it, as if nothing new is coming out in the next few years...

People buy consoles to play games, not formats, Sony thought "hey PS2 had DvD and it sold like crazy"... but that was a transition from VHS, ... (Tapes, lose quality, have to rewind, no scene selection format,) and thought Blu-ray would have the same impact... but well... if we were still in VHS, fuck ya... but were not...

Sony got beatdown by MS, who released their console way earlier than sony was expecting. They were expecting the next X-Box to release in late 2006 or early 2007, and sony was expecting to respond mid to late 2007, but microsoft released late 2006. Sony had to rush out the PS3 a full year ahead of schedule, and even then MS had a year head start on sales. Then nintendo comes out of nowhere and destroys sony in the japanese market, which was where sony was expecting to just rake in profit.

The Yen is currently at 97 to the dollar (has been for a while) when in recent history it was usually 120 or 125 to the dollar. 

That means that if the Yen was at its expeced rate to the dollar and other currencies, the PS3 would cost under $340 to produce right now instead of $440 or whatever it is.

Anyway, it's not helping.

I don't see, especially after the last oil crisis, mini-vans with dvd players and mini tv's being wide spread... at least not as wide spread as HD Tvs.