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My numerical take?

Ok I expec the ps3 to sell 4 million units from now too january 31st 2008, and expect that once the $399.99 price is brought to the ps3 it will outsell the 360 3 to 1 WW. And rival the current WW wii numbers.



 

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leo-j said:
My numerical take?

Ok I expec the ps3 to sell 4 million units from now too january 31st 2008, and expect that once the $399.99 price is brought to the ps3 it will outsell the 360 3 to 1 WW. And rival the current WW wii numbers.

I'm sorry Leo but 3 to 1 off a price cut is just wildly optimistic. PS3 needs a price cut and games to catch up. A price cut alone and MS just slashes their price again, keeping the Pro well over $100 less than the PS3. Nothing changes in comparison while both systems get a sales boost.

MGS will help but won't solve anything. Sony needs FFXIII, MGS, GT5, and more to start gaining ground. With FFXIII looking more and more like a 2009 release while Lost Odyssey is hitting in 2008, MS just has more time to build that lead. Combine that with the ass-kicking Halo is about to dish out and things aren't pretty for the PS3.

Ultimately I think Sony will close the gap but I think it will be too little, too late and MS will hold on to second place.




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leo-j said:
My numerical take?

Ok I expec the ps3 to sell 4 million units from now too january 31st 2008, and expect that once the $399.99 price is brought to the ps3 it will outsell the 360 3 to 1 WW. And rival the current WW wii numbers.

Well, thanks for posting your thoughts.  I think 4M units through Jan 31 2008 at the current price structure is a tad optimistic, but We'll see when we get there.  If the PS3 does sell that many units based on a price cut I do suspect the 360 to be right there with them.  Your 3:1 sales estimate would certainly have to hold true for a 2K8 catch-up to the 360 and the numbers will have to be significant -- i.e. pushing out close to 1M units/month on average all of next year.   Point is, you put out your opinion and stood by it with your numbers.  Thanks.



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GT5 is only worth game in 2008 - that`s how xbots thinks? =))

no MGS4? - proven tittle
no FFXII? proven tittle
no Tekken6? - proven tittle
no Getaway3? - proven tittile
no infamous?
no White Knight Story?
no Star Ocean 4? - proven tittle
no Kingdom hearts 3? - proven tittile
no LBP?


now i see.. ps3 is doomed. =))



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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CrazzyMan said:
GT5 is only worth game in 2008 - that`s how xbots thinks? =))

no MGS4? - proven tittle
no FFXII? proven tittle
no Tekken6? - proven tittle
no Getaway3? - proven tittile
no infamous?
no White Knight Story?
no Star Ocean 4? - proven tittle
no Kingdom hearts 3? - proven tittile
no LBP?


now i see.. ps3 is doomed. =))

I think you misunderstood the point of my thread...



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well, i didn`t read everything =)
so what the point of your thread? =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

The only thing the getaway has proven is thats it a poor GTA rip off =))


And that the english have impossible to understand accents =))


Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

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CrazzyMan said:
well, i didn`t read everything =)
so what the point of your thread? =)

1) Yes 2) No

I have both consoles and TBH, there is alot more I'm looking forward to on the PS3 than the 360.

For 360 - Eternal Sonata (timed-exclusive only), Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2, Cry On, DOA. Maybe Mass Effect

For PS3 - Folklore, R&C TOD, GT5:P, GT5 Full, White Knight Story, MGS4, GOW 3, Heavenly Sword 2&3 (beat 1 already, it's awesome), FF XIII, FFVXIII, SO4, Disgaea 3, Tekken 6, LBP.

FYI for Wii - SSB, SMG, and Mario Kart, and whatever proper Zelda game.  Maybe RE: UC


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