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Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

You don't pirate games you don't want to play. Obviously these people want to play these games, they are just taking the free and easy option. In time, most of these people would have bought one anyway, I believe.

 

Do you buy every game you want to play?  What if Uncharted 2 cost $400?

Do you buy really expensive food you would like to eat whenever you would want to eat it?  Or do you say "You know... that tastes good but it's too expensive."

That's why I said "in time". They may have not been able to buy it right away, but eventually as the software comes, many would buy it or save up and buy it. This isn't some third world country where games cost $150 on $900 consoles forcing people to start illegally downloading. In the main markets, PSP and most games are affordable.

 

You don't get it.  To some people.  Paying 40 dollars for a game is like paying 400.  Because it's not worth it to them.

These are the people who pirate mostly according to current economic theory.

I mean you've never done something you've enjoyed that you wouldn't pay for? Really?  Nothing?

 

Don't agree with that at all. They want to play the games. They've made a $200 investment to play the games. I'm sure they would be willing to pay $20 if it was the only option.

I used to pirate PSP games. My cousin did it for me, easy stuff. I would have bought them, but why bother when I could get them for free?

 

Because most people aren't sociopaths? 

Also... you can disagree... but people made that 200 dollar investment because the games were free.

I mean you can disgree... but your disagreement is going against expert opinion.

No, just yours =)

Most people aren't sociopaths? What is meant by that?

 

It's not my opinion.  It's current economic theory.  As in the theory favored by experts.

As for the sociopath comment.  Most people would rather pay a free price for something rather then get it for free against the person who made its will.

 

 



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It would ne foolish if you people don't think Piracy doesn't hurt sales. The reason people pirate on PSP is that it is so damn easy to do. Yes the DS isn't that hard itself but the casual crowd isn't going to be a tech swavy as hardcore crowd in which Sony themselves say they cater to.

I do think UMD games should be more in the range of DS games though and that is the only other factor than piracy that I see hurting the PSP. If you told me the only way possible to watch movies was buying them then I would have hundreds of DVDs. Since downloading is easy I only buy great movies and download movies I have seen in the past or theater (Sorry I need to eat, live and buy games). Crappy movies are also worth downloading but not buying to me anyways.

One thing I can say is that I have never pirated any game that is out on current or last gen systems. I do download roms for older games to play on my computer but if there is a remake I tend to buy the games I downloaded.



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I would have to say that it comes down to what you believe in. Each person must decide how they feel about each company and decide if they will support them or not.

I love games. Even though I would easily be able to pirate any Microsoft software my position is no pirated 360 games. Still, I would rather slit my own throat than pay for xbox live.

I bought a brand new PSP 3000 even though I knew that I could pirate with the PSP 2000 sitting on the shelf there next to it.

I have never pirated a game. Sales of these games are what keep this industry alive!

Movies have the theater;

Music has concerts...

Fair game.

Who the fuck is going to pay the developers to keep making great games for me if everyone is too cheap to pay for them?

If the PS3 was hacked when it first came out and Sony was losing $200.00 on each console sold and because of this it sold twice as many...

I am a big Sony fan!

Choose your guns and stick with them, but don't shoot yourself in the foot!



I think it's a very safe bet to say that complete Digital Distribution is looking quite favorable to SONY for a future handheld.



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Resistance is selling pretty well if you look at the numbers and MLB.
Also without hacks the PSP wouldn't have sold as well as it did.
DS sells greatly in Hardware despite how easy it is to get flash carts/fake DS carts? So how is Sony to use the excuse? *shrugs*

 

I also think Sony is going to go the way of Digitial Distribution on their next PSP, but the question is how many people will buy into it? And I'm sure once a title is downloaded *someone* will figure out the code and get the full files on the internet for people to download. IMHO there is no real way around piracy.



It's just that simple.

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I think we have established that piracy moves consoles. This only really benefits nintendo though because they are the only ones who make money off of each console. Not to mention Nintendo has a wide demographic many of which believe piracy is wrong or oblivious to its existance. So software can still do well despite it. Sony loses money off of each purchase so piracy wouldn't help it.

The DS may be easier to hack but the PSP has become more associated with it. My friends haven't bought a PSP game in a long time. Yet they are fully enjoying games on it. Now they at least have the decency to buy the american version of Dissidia when it comes out, but I am sure there are tons of games that they have that they will probably never buy. I am sure there are many games that if they couldn't download they still wouldn't buy, but I am also sure that there would be some games that they would fork over money for.

It is sad to hear about people using flashcarts and storing games on SD cards. I know there are people that wouldn't buy the games anyway. However, there are people that would but when they find a free version, they would rather have that.

The video game industry doesn't have concerts or movies to make money off of like the other industries. They rely solely on property sales.

Losses may be exaggerated but the losses are still there.

I am never going to buy a dodge viper. So I should just go to a dealership and hot wire one. I am not taking anything from them because I had no intention of purchasing in the first place. I know intellectual property is different but that is what is seems like at times.



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I think digital distribution is the answer. Unless they can come up with a working cloud model and 3g. Not so sure that will happen for a long time though. It would definitely fix the storage and medium issue IMO.



Aj_habfan said:
demonluo said:
-__- just look at ps3 hardware & software sale(no piracy & ranked last in this generation) & then look at wii(lot of piracy & ranked 1st in this generation), it should tell u that if not for piracy the psp sale will be 21.62M instead of 46.64M...

Oh god, where to begin?

First of all, you think PS3 and Wii difference is based on piracy? Laughable. There are at least 10 more important reasons then that. Price? Motion controls? Target markets? Any of that?

Next, how would be PSP be at 21.62? PSP was released in 2005, PS3 2007. Unless you are saying even people that don't pirate wouldn't buy one because you can't pirate games.

Your main point is like Kasz's and is part true, but your logic is off.

 

 

 

<__< ya, there r at least 10 more important reasons but this is the most important factor(piracy=luck=charm=sale no.1) coz ps1 & 2 was totally showing off the power of piracy will bring in luck & when the luck come it'll charm all the customers(including more than 80%% of people who don't buy/can't burned pirated software) & it can then attract many other console fanboys & it'll then forced the 3rd party game developer to join in the population & therefore, the piracy sale will also bring up the non-piracy sale & go all the way up to no. 1(i know it look confusing, retarded, strange, unbelievable but it is the fact just like i can't believe pokemon/wii sport is always no.1 in sale after don't know how many BS weeks/months)...

 



I have personally never seen a system with a piracy problem as out of control as the PSP except for the Dreamcast after the boot disc was released. Well actually the PC is as well but it has a much larger base of potential customers to save it from the same situation the PSP is now in.



I think Sony's problem is they are trying to fit the PSP hardware into a toothpaste container.