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mike_intellivision said:
MontanaHatchet said:
One of the worst things a successful company can do is underestimate and discount their competitors. Besides, think of the next generation of handhelds. The iPhone will have a huge userbase and will be selling a good amount of games, while the new Nintendo handheld will just be starting out. Even if the next Nintendo handheld holds its own, the iPhone is a threat whether people like it or not.

But even worse than discounting the competition is saying that you are afraid of them.

Anyone knows that Apple is a powerful company. However, to be honest, its technology generally underperforms for the pricepoint.

As for the iPhone, a lot of people have them for business. So the sales numbers are skewed. In other words, I doubt my wife or my boss will be buying games on their business phones.

Thus, the market for actual game-players is not that large and the sweet spot for game pricing is much closer to DSware than DS carts.

This has always been the case for cell phone games. They are phones first. Other devices (music players, planners) second. And game players last. Apple has made the iPhone and iPod more game-friendly. But they have not made them game-centric.

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It is pretty much given that no company is ever going to publicly state that they are afraid of their competition. Like you said, that would be worse, it would be a PR nightmare that would easily destroy any public credibility the company has.

For the technology part and underperforming, strictly speaking you get more "technology" for the same price if you get a PC, but as a HW/SW platform the Mac is very capable for the price.

And again, regarding the size of the gaming market, I like to point out that in less than a year, hundrends of millions of games have been downloaded. There is no doubt whatsoever that a big number of people are playing (or at least downloading) games. However, as I and many other's have said, the average price of the games is very low. There are no games over $9.99 that I know of, and most are in the "few bucks" range. I actually believe that the sweet spot for game pricing is currently lower than DSiWare, but I hope and believe that things will change with more higher profile games and in-app purchases.



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First M$ and SONY say that nintendo isnt a threat either and now nintendo does the same to apple. They of all people know that you should not underestimate you opponent because they do something different.



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hatmoza 2.0 said:

Hey man I got a Pippin. Does that make me a Pippin fanboy? Where the heck is the Top 10 Pippin games list? Oh wait there were only 7!

 



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Plaupius said:

-Skype is already available on several phones, and it is rumored to be coming to iPhone as well.

 

Skype launched on iPhone a few weeks ago. Oh course there were tons of Skype compatible VOIP choices long before that.

 

I just want to add that I think Sony is in a weaker place respective to the iPhone than Ninty. The PSP is a slow seller with a smaller install base, more media oriented, and is a software graveyard. If I was Apple I would focus on them, because they are more similar devices and Sony is in a pretty weak position, especially in regards to handhelds.

 

But heres the deal. Apple made a powerfull phone so that it could do what they wanted it to. Then they released and SDK to allow others to use that HW. I frankly don't think they care what devs use it for as long as they get a cut. 

 

For many of us mobile gaming is such a rare thing that buying a PSP or DSi just doesn't make sence. That is the market Apple will do well in. If you are a hardcore gamer who wants new big releases weekly, I just don't think Apple is concerned with you.



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Skype probably not coming to DSi after all!

There was some speculation yesterday about Skype on DSi after a Skype rep told TechRadar: "Whilst we can't comment on any future plans to bring Skype to Nintendo's DSi, it would technically be possible."

The words 'technically possible' are, in the scrimmage of the blogosphere, a kind of shorthand for 'entirely inevitable', and the so the sun set yesterday on a UK population moderately confident that it would one day be making calls via DSi.

It woke up this morning to less optimistic news. A Nintendo spokeperson has told CVG, "[w]e have no plans to release a Skype application for Nintendo DS or DSi."

However, just as 'technically possible' doesn't constitutes confirmation, 'no plans' doesn't constitute disconfirmation. VOIP on DSi could still happen. Skype just may not be the facilitator.

Or it may.

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/DSi/Nintendo+DSi/news.asp?c=12827



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Well DS is primarily played and owned by kids. I doubt parents are getting iPhones or iTouch for their kids. Bearing that in mind I don't think Nintendo has much to worry about.



City17 said:
Skype probably not coming to DSi after all!

There was some speculation yesterday about Skype on DSi after a Skype rep told TechRadar: "Whilst we can't comment on any future plans to bring Skype to Nintendo's DSi, it would technically be possible."

The words 'technically possible' are, in the scrimmage of the blogosphere, a kind of shorthand for 'entirely inevitable', and the so the sun set yesterday on a UK population moderately confident that it would one day be making calls via DSi.

It woke up this morning to less optimistic news. A Nintendo spokeperson has told CVG, "[w]e have no plans to release a Skype application for Nintendo DS or DSi."

However, just as 'technically possible' doesn't constitutes confirmation, 'no plans' doesn't constitute disconfirmation. VOIP on DSi could still happen. Skype just may not be the facilitator.

Or it may.

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/DSi/Nintendo+DSi/news.asp?c=12827

 

Ninty would be so stupid not to encourage Skype. I think one general theme of the last few years is handheld convergence. MP3 players are now cell phones, with internet, and camera, and the ability to play (shitty) games. Sony saw this coming with the PSP and now Ninty seems to get it too with the DSi. People want to carry around the least amount of stuff they can. Both Sony and Nintendo should have released a GSM based handheld as a option years ago. I would own one if they did, but instead I simply can't find the worth in carrying around yet another device.

 



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The iPhone sucks.




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averyblund said:
City17 said:
Skype probably not coming to DSi after all!

There was some speculation yesterday about Skype on DSi after a Skype rep told TechRadar: "Whilst we can't comment on any future plans to bring Skype to Nintendo's DSi, it would technically be possible."

The words 'technically possible' are, in the scrimmage of the blogosphere, a kind of shorthand for 'entirely inevitable', and the so the sun set yesterday on a UK population moderately confident that it would one day be making calls via DSi.

It woke up this morning to less optimistic news. A Nintendo spokeperson has told CVG, "[w]e have no plans to release a Skype application for Nintendo DS or DSi."

However, just as 'technically possible' doesn't constitutes confirmation, 'no plans' doesn't constitute disconfirmation. VOIP on DSi could still happen. Skype just may not be the facilitator.

Or it may.

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/DSi/Nintendo+DSi/news.asp?c=12827

 

Ninty would be so stupid not to encourage Skype. I think one general theme of the last few years is handheld convergence. MP3 players are now cell phones, with internet, and camera, and the ability to play (shitty) games. Sony saw this coming with the PSP and now Ninty seems to get it too with the DSi. People want to carry around the least amount of stuff they can. Both Sony and Nintendo should have released a GSM based handheld as a option years ago. I would own one if they did, but instead I simply can't find the worth in carrying around yet another device.

 

Ah, yes. Makes perfect sense. Handheld convergence being key is exactly why the N-Gage controls such a large percent of the marketshare today, and why the PSP is currently beating the DS.

 

 

...wait, that's not how it worked? Ah.

 

While I agree that making the DS capable of Skype would be wonderful, I can guarantee not including it will never significantly affect DS marketshare.

Besides, Nintendo doesn't HAVE to have plans to do it. It's eBay's decision to develop Skype for the DS - not Nintendo's.



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