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Why would I respect a country that uses torture? The U.S is so quick to shout about Iran and its ways of dealing with criminals, yet it does this itself?



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@darth





@Killzowned

It's a primal form of respect. I can't help it. Plus these waterboardings were in a extreme case, kind of.



Slimebeast said:

@darth





@Killzowned

It's a primal form of respect. I can't help it. Plus these waterboardings were in a extreme case, kind of.

It doesn't matter if the case was extreme or not. For a country fighting to uphold liberty and justice around the world, it doesn't do too much to promote that and just goes to show how backwards the U.S is in some ways.



MrBubbles said:
i skimmed it...it was boring though

 

This lol

The USA waterboarding people is very hypocritical, I've always thought that. You want to stop people who torture and kill people by torturing them and simulating death, yeah that's not hypocritical

Seriously, there a million better ways to deal with them that work better. At least make a good example to the rest of the world.



Killzowned said:
Why would I respect a country that uses torture? The U.S is so quick to shout about Iran and its ways of dealing with criminals, yet it does this itself?

 

iran hangs gay people.  the US waterboards terrorists.



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MrBubbles said:
Killzowned said:
Why would I respect a country that uses torture? The U.S is so quick to shout about Iran and its ways of dealing with criminals, yet it does this itself?

 

iran hangs gay people.  the US waterboards terrorists.

Well that says a lot about us...we are beating Iran in the human rights department.  That's like winning the Special Olympics.  You may have won, but you are still retarded.

 



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akuma587 said:
Reading is your friend mrbubbles.

It didn't actually answer his question in there...


Either way... eh.  It was over the line to begin with.  Not sure this really changes it or makes it more over the line.

I'd just put the people on trial, have them use the nuremburg defense and climb the ladder right up to the people who the orders began with.

 

But I doubt Obama wants to set a precedent where the President is actually responsible for illegal under the level operations they pull.

 



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Obama is taking the right approach. This information should be available to the public just so we know what went on, but the political and social implications of going after this people is too much of a hot potato to deal with. Could turn into a Neo-McCarthyian witch hunt.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

MrBubbles said:
Killzowned said:
Why would I respect a country that uses torture? The U.S is so quick to shout about Iran and its ways of dealing with criminals, yet it does this itself?

 

iran hangs gay people.  the US army waterboards terrorists or people in guantanamo , most of them being innocent.

 

fixed.