Complaints about God of War 2 being too much like the last ones... it's a sequel, they usually don't change huge amounts.

Metroid Prime 3 is very similar to the last 2 correct? (outside of controls).

Halo 3 multiplayer is the same old thing refined as expected.

Mario Galaxy is the essential Mario 64 game with a few things added and set in space.

Twilight Princess is based around Ocarina of Time, looks better and has a different story.

See a pattern here?

Eat, Sleep, Play.

http://www.gameguru.in/sony-psp/2007/30/david-jaffe-forms-game-company-eat-sleep-play-signs-deal-with-sony/

1. Controls made Metroid Prime 3 an entirely new game in addition to many new aspects of gameplay and reinovations of the Metroid franchise that brought this one to life, only its graphical similarity to its predicessors made it anything like them. Have you even played all three Metroid Primes? Your claims are those of someone who hasn't.

2. Halo 3, let's wait for the game to come out before jumping to such brash conclusions.

3. If by similar to Mario 64 you mean they both have Mario and are 3D? Seriously Ckmlb, what a piss poor comparison, your over eagerness to try and defend GOW is really showing in this one.

4. Twilight Princess really wasn't like Ocarina in Time, in fact many fans criticized it for not being enough like Ocarina of time. Have you actually played Ocarina of Time, because listening to your comparison of it to Twlight Princess really makes it sound like you haven't?

The Problem is Ckmlb, the only one of these sequals that could any way be so close to its predicessors as to be considered a copy & paste clone like GOW2 was, is Halo 3, and even then that's unsubstantiated speculation. Maybe you should try playing the game first before making such allegations. Games like Metroid, Zelda and Mario will always seem similar in that they need to keep certain elements of gameplay unique to themselves or risk ceasing to exist as the franchises they are, but they are clearly their own unique instalments, not clones like GOW2. If you're too eager to defend something you're just going to make a piss-poor argument, and by god, you did.

Hmm I have to agree here, halo 3 is probably more like its predecessors then the others, but not by much, in the end SMG is like 64 but with quite a few things different. Zelda is a new story setting etc, why it makes it different. Metroid is just controls i guess, little bit of everything else. In all they are all def sequals.

I also see that GoW can be seen as a true "sequal"

Good thread gball gelemr...

Cory did Gow2, and quite happy with him taking over the job. He managed to improve on gow1. most sequals tend to fall short of the original he somehow managed to make improvements.

Cant wait to see what he does with the Ps3!

1. Motion controls do not make it a new game, just look RE 4 on Wii is the same game as before with motion controls. Lots of backtracking, similar types of puzzles, similar design for the most part, so what is the big change?

2. I've played the beta and so has lots and lots of people and everyone knows the multiplayer is the same with enhancements. Why would you change something that works? Since the basics of play are the same in multiplayer, the single player will be different in story and feel not in the core of the game.

3. You disproved me how? Tell me how Mario Galaxy is different from Mario 64 outside of graphics, setting and Wii controls and a few new suits and moves and whatnot? Mario Sunshine was a departure from Mario 64 (a bad one) and this is a return to it. I can't understand how you can't see they play exactly the same with refinements.

4. All the core of Twilight Princess gameplay is straight from Ocarina of Time. Ocarina of Time laid the foundation and Twilight Princess is building on it. Maybe you need to go play both again and compare how the basic game is the same.

The first game sets the standard and then sequels build on it, it's been the same always. The only times that this wasn't the case is when for example Mario and Zelda went 3D and of course htat changed the game. Same with Metroid. Also your claim that GOW 2 is a clone but Twilight Princess isn't already tells me where you come from. You sound a lot like a certain someone I know. Your RE 5 petition further directs me in that direction. Not to mention you started numbered lists for no reason exactly as he/she used to. Lots of coincidences there.

But why are you interested in RE 5 anyway? It will disappear in the gigantic Blue Nintendo Ocean of great casual games, it's a dying franchise that is too lowly for the Wii... 

I haven't played either of the GoW games yet, but I don't see how the sequel being so similar to the original is such a big deal. It's not like by the time the sequel rolled around that the GoW formula had wore thin. TP is a fine example of how you can take a game(OoT) and fine tune the experience while adding new things along the way. The inevitable GoW PS3 title doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to stay relevant; doing so would only cause outrage from those who were calling for a change in the first place. As a big Nintendo fan for 20 years, I've heard the call for change many times and had to endure the self-righteous outrage of "fans" every time a change was made.

Sometimes I dream of making a gritty, cutting edge, balls-to-the-wall, action/adventure epic monstrosity of a game. Then in the spirit of change, make the sequel a doe-eyed, cartoony dating sim just to rile everyone up. :)

Hmm sorry Gelmer but CKLMB is right.

Didn't he leave Sony a half year ago and now made Calling all cars for PSN?

If a game is so close to perfection, then change isn't really necessary =D

dam this is old... and did he even have a part in God of war 2??? and isnt his company now a 2nd party company so really he didnt even leave. old news old news old news..