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Sony was asking for trouble regarding price when they put Blu Ray into the PS3. Lowering the price and having Blu Ray at the same time was a double edged sword, so either way they take punishment, no one can say they don't deserve it.



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crumas2 said:
Squilliam said:
crumas2 said:

Hmmm... this is usually true for a very short period of time, but I'm not familiar with going to a reduced process (more chips per die) as producing anything but higher yields very quickly.  Please illuminate me.  

 

Italised the important word, 'initially'.

 

Understood.  In your estimation, what would the cross-over time period from lower-to-higher be?  I'm assuming 30-60 days max once full production is underway, but I've been wrong before...

 

Im not at home, otherwise I would provide you with some example defects vs time graphs. (Holiday), so from what I can rememember the defect rates can start out extremely high and dip quickly with some point in the middle tipping the balance towards mass production at the new process node. (It depends whether you include the sampling time-frame it not I guess)

 



Tease.

They crippled themselves with the original price of 500+. Even now 400 dollars is a Wii and a 360 from amazon.

At 300, The ps3 will at least get a few more sales which will increase software sales (unless people buy systems to look at pretty dragon designs :D)



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony was asking for trouble regarding price when they put Blu Ray into the PS3. Lowering the price and having Blu Ray at the same time was a double edged sword, so either way they take punishment, no one can say they don't deserve it.

When Sony put the BR in the PS3 they were making sure that the cosole, like the other two iterations of the playsation family was a pioneer in the market.

 

At the time a comparable BR player was $1200 plus!

 

Double edge sword = Less possibilities for piracy + Massive content storage

 

Sounds like a win win situation to me friend :)

 



JRPG said:
blackstar said:
i know it's impossible :*(

 

Because Sony can't take that much loss of revenue. Even if they do cut the prices nothing will change. They will sale the same amount they are doing now(maybe a month spike but nothing major), and they will still be in last place and losing more money.

Lol. If they cut prices, they bury both themselves, and the 360's weekly sales.

 



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City17 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony was asking for trouble regarding price when they put Blu Ray into the PS3. Lowering the price and having Blu Ray at the same time was a double edged sword, so either way they take punishment, no one can say they don't deserve it.

When Sony put the BR in the PS3 they were making sure that the cosole, like the other two iterations of the playsation family was a pioneer in the market.

 

At the time a comparable BR player was $1200 plus!

 

Double edge sword = Less possibilities for piracy + Massive content storage

 

Sounds like a win win situation to me friend :)

 

 

 Sony keeps reiterating themselves. They knew selling PS3's at drastically low prices with BR in it was going to be a slow process if they wanted profit. It still is a double edged sword, you just refuse to see it because of your loyalty. I have no loyalty to gaming companies, because I am the type of person who purchases what I like without need of attachment. Sony isn't pioneering crap with Blu Ray. The PS3 was a sacrifice to save Blu Ray when so many companies were investing in it and weren't seeing profit. Don't ever say BR cannot be pirated, because it can and everyone who cares to do it will eventually have the knowledge, similarly to the PS2. Sony cripped themselves by trying to force a dying product that wasn't needed into the market. HD-DVD died and Blu Ray should've gone with it in the natural scheme of things. Blu Ray is just another DVD with more space. There is nothing special about it in the long run.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
City17 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony was asking for trouble regarding price when they put Blu Ray into the PS3. Lowering the price and having Blu Ray at the same time was a double edged sword, so either way they take punishment, no one can say they don't deserve it.

When Sony put the BR in the PS3 they were making sure that the cosole, like the other two iterations of the playsation family was a pioneer in the market.

 

At the time a comparable BR player was $1200 plus!

 

Double edge sword = Less possibilities for piracy + Massive content storage

 

Sounds like a win win situation to me friend :)

 

 

 Sony keeps reiterating themselves. They knew selling PS3's at drastically low prices with BR in it was going to be a slow process if they wanted profit. It still is a double edged sword, you just refuse to see it because of your loyalty. I have no loyalty to gaming companies, because I am the type of person who purchases what I like without need of attachment. Sony isn't pioneering crap with Blu Ray. The PS3 was a sacrifice to save Blu Ray when so many companies were investing in it and weren't seeing profit. Don't ever say BR cannot be pirated, because it can and everyone who cares to do it will eventually have the knowledge, similarly to the PS2. Sony cripped themselves by trying to force a dying product that wasn't needed into the market. HD-DVD died and Blu Ray should've gone with it in the natural scheme of things. Blu Ray is just another DVD with more space. There is nothing special about it in the long run.


Really?

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=69073&page=1

City17 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
City17 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony was asking for trouble regarding price when they put Blu Ray into the PS3. Lowering the price and having Blu Ray at the same time was a double edged sword, so either way they take punishment, no one can say they don't deserve it.

When Sony put the BR in the PS3 they were making sure that the cosole, like the other two iterations of the playsation family was a pioneer in the market.

 

At the time a comparable BR player was $1200 plus!

 

Double edge sword = Less possibilities for piracy + Massive content storage

 

Sounds like a win win situation to me friend :)

 

 

 Sony keeps reiterating themselves. They knew selling PS3's at drastically low prices with BR in it was going to be a slow process if they wanted profit. It still is a double edged sword, you just refuse to see it because of your loyalty. I have no loyalty to gaming companies, because I am the type of person who purchases what I like without need of attachment. Sony isn't pioneering crap with Blu Ray. The PS3 was a sacrifice to save Blu Ray when so many companies were investing in it and weren't seeing profit. Don't ever say BR cannot be pirated, because it can and everyone who cares to do it will eventually have the knowledge, similarly to the PS2. Sony cripped themselves by trying to force a dying product that wasn't needed into the market. HD-DVD died and Blu Ray should've gone with it in the natural scheme of things. Blu Ray is just another DVD with more space. There is nothing special about it in the long run.


Really?

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=69073&page=1

 

 Well obviously if you force a product into the DVD market using the videogame industry the lower price will eventually catch on. This is not an argument.



t S.T.A.G.E. said:
City17 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony was asking for trouble regarding price when they put Blu Ray into the PS3. Lowering the price and having Blu Ray at the same time was a double edged sword, so either way they take punishment, no one can say they don't deserve it.

When Sony put the BR in the PS3 they were making sure that the cosole, like the other two iterations of the playsation family was a pioneer in the market.

 

At the time a comparable BR player was $1200 plus!

 

Double edge sword = Less possibilities for piracy + Massive content storage

 

Sounds like a win win situation to me friend :)

 

 

 Sony keeps reiterating themselves. They knew selling PS3's at drastically low prices with BR in it was going to be a slow process if they wanted profit. It still is a double edged sword, you just refuse to see it because of your loyalty. I have no loyalty to gaming companies, because I am the type of person who purchases what I like without need of attachment. Sony isn't pioneering crap with Blu Ray. The PS3 was a sacrifice to save Blu Ray when so many companies were investing in it and weren't seeing profit. Don't ever say BR cannot be pirated, because it can and everyone who cares to do it will eventually have the knowledge, similarly to the PS2. Sony cripped themselves by trying to force a dying product that wasn't needed into the market. HD-DVD died and Blu Ray should've gone with it in the natural scheme of things. Blu Ray is just another DVD with more space. There is nothing special about it in the long run.

What are you talking about BD is the same as DVD? Not even fucking close.

 

1. DVDs use an angle read, meaning it has a variable read speed, and only keeps around 60-70% it's max speed.

2. BD use a direct on angle, which allows for constant 100% disc read speed.

3. BD has an extra coating for resistance.

4. BD reads 4 times faster then DVD.(1x BD = 4.5X DVD)

5. It uses a blue diode(so did HD-DVD) that has 2 lenses, at A MUCH higher density, meaning it can literally read through any scratch, if it can even be scratched with the extra layer of scratch resistant material.

 

Hell I could list hundreds of more differences.

 

DVD took over VHS, just as VHS took over beta. BD takes over DVD, what do you think is wrong with that?

 



price drop with new hardware revision, then ill buy one