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LordMatrix on 18 April 2009
waron said:
LordMatrix said:
waron said:
astrosmash said:
jellyfishprince said:
I said it before and i will say it Again.. there is no reason AT ALL why games like gta4, mgs4, re5, halo 3 were not released on the wii... they are just losing so much $$$

Games like those or those exact games? Cause I can think of a really good reason some of those never made it to Wii.

 

 

they were released on last gen platforms so how come they can't be done on more powerful console? ALL ps360 games can be done on wii in the same exact way only with SD graphics. first xbox could pull of graphics that looked like from this gen so how come 2x or even 3x more powerful system can't? developers are just lazy that's all.

 

I fail to see one game mentioned in his post that was last gen. The Wii is hardly any better than an Xbox that isn't saying much since the xbox looks like crap now even Riddick on Xbox compared to the Remade Version of Riddick looks bad. Everyone knows thee Wii can pull off some nice lookign games but it cannot and will not pull off a MGS4 or Mass Effect caliber game. I like my Wii for innovative and unique titles not games that make me want to salivate over their beauty.

 

i'm talking about prequels of those titles and those types of games(stealth, rpgs, sandbox) gameplaywise - if developers were able to make them on last gen platforms in even better way then now(san andreas was bigger then gta4 and one of sengoku basara ps2 games could pull 6k enemies on screen without framerate issues compared to heavenly sword). we had morrowind, forza and riddick on xbox and we can have simillar if not better games on wii as well.

i don't want to mix "wii specs are better" in this topic, but while xbox used pentium gamecube/wii are using power pc CPUs that are practically 3x more powerful.

 

If Wii does get some games like that I'd not mind one iota bring em on I say. I still say The Wii can't even match PS3 and Xbox 360 as far as Processing Power, RAM and Graphics goes. But I agree it can have some epic titles I know it can if the Xbox did and it has roughly the same capabilities it can get things that are praghically as nice as Halo 2 and Chronicles of Riddick or as vast as Morrowwind most definitely.

Problem here is are Developers/Publishers willing to try it? With so many successful casual titles and not so many hardcore ones that are unless you look at Nintendo's hardcore games.

Madworld being a prime example of this...it's geared towards the hardcore crowd has a unique art style and some of the most insane finishing moves I've seen in any game to date. Yet it fails to sell well. Why? Who knows...on the brightside of things Japanese developers are delivering some nice Wii Titles so I say let's take a wait and see approach here.



 How our favorite systems are just like humans and sometimes have issues finding their special someone...

Xbox 360 wants to Kinect &  PS3 wants to Move!  Why are both systems having such relationship problems?  The reason is they both become so infactuated with desire while watching the Wii as it waggles on by. They simply want what they can't have.

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Avarice28 on 18 April 2009
waron said:
astrosmash said:
jellyfishprince said:
I said it before and i will say it Again.. there is no reason AT ALL why games like gta4, mgs4, re5, halo 3 were not released on the wii... they are just losing so much $$$

Games like those or those exact games? Cause I can think of a really good reason some of those never made it to Wii.

 

 

they were released on last gen platforms so how come they can't be done on more powerful console? ALL ps360 games can be done on wii in the same exact way only with SD graphics. first xbox could pull of graphics that looked like from this gen so how come 2x or even 3x more powerful system can't? developers are just lazy that's all.

 

what are you talking about 2x 3x more powerful?  check the stats again (on the wii) and last I checked these games are made with tons of shaders, physics calculations, and normal mapping......these are things that the wii cannot do at all.  As far as a downported game for the wii, well it has been proven when this happens the wii gets a very horrible port.  Those games are made with higher specs then the wii is capable of.  Sales on these titles were very high so I do not know why it would have had to be "also" released on the wii, just do yourself a favor and pick up one of the HD twins (you will not regret it)



frictionini on 18 April 2009

lol @ SD version of games...



 

Avarice28 on 18 April 2009
jellyfishprince said:
I said it before and i will say it Again.. there is no reason AT ALL why games like gta4, mgs4, re5, halo 3 were not released on the wii... they are just losing so much $$$

 

How are they "losing" money?  To make the wii port would take R&D, the HD versions have already done this and enjoy very healthy sales without having to "compromise" the games quality from system to system.  Plus Halo is exclusive to the 360 (until the pc version is announced), Metal gear solid 4 was built from the ground up for ps3 (not even possible on the wii), and I will give you a small possibility on GTA4 but looking at china wars sales I would think that putting this game on anything that is not Ps360, psp, or pc would just be "pointless".  Nintendo gamers look more toward music games (rockband) and titles with mario in it or link.  The sales so far confirm what I am saying, oh and also anything with "Fitt" in it as well.  Let it go, this is not the ps2 era where you only need one console to satisfy all gaming needs, this gen it is definately a 2 console gen (wii+360) or (wii+ps3)



Avarice28 on 18 April 2009
LordMatrix said:
waron said:
astrosmash said:
jellyfishprince said:
I said it before and i will say it Again.. there is no reason AT ALL why games like gta4, mgs4, re5, halo 3 were not released on the wii... they are just losing so much $$$

Games like those or those exact games? Cause I can think of a really good reason some of those never made it to Wii.

 

 

they were released on last gen platforms so how come they can't be done on more powerful console? ALL ps360 games can be done on wii in the same exact way only with SD graphics. first xbox could pull of graphics that looked like from this gen so how come 2x or even 3x more powerful system can't? developers are just lazy that's all.

 

I fail to see one game mentioned in his post that was last gen. The Wii is hardly any better than an Xbox that isn't saying much since the xbox looks like crap now even Riddick on Xbox compared to the Remade Version of Riddick looks bad. Everyone knows thee Wii can pull off some nice lookign games but it cannot and will not pull off a MGS4 or Mass Effect caliber game. I like my Wii for innovative and unique titles not games that make me want to salivate over their beauty.

 

+1 on this comment, plus I "still" never see any ps360 people starting threads about "Why Wii fit has not been announced for the Ps360".  Nor will you see post like "cannot wait until mario galaxy 128 comes out on xbox 720", you know and I know that nintendo games will stay nintendo games.  As far as this gen is concerned third parties have started a new mantra and it goes like this "the hardcore gamers own at least a ps3 and 360 so we will target them with our AAA titles exclusively, the wii will get a parody of anything we put on the HD twins and make sure it is on rails".  Sad but true, not trying to clown you guys but you make it so easy with threads like this one.



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waron on 18 April 2009
Avarice28 said:

 

what are you talking about 2x 3x more powerful? check the stats again (on the wii) and last I checked these games are made with tons of shaders, physics calculations, and normal mapping......these are things that the wii cannot do at all. As far as a downported game for the wii, well it has been proven when this happens the wii gets a very horrible port. Those games are made with higher specs then the wii is capable of. Sales on these titles were very high so I do not know why it would have had to be "also" released on the wii, just do yourself a favor and pick up one of the HD twins (you will not regret it)

 

it's not always about things that hits you in the groin you know. when you see a 250gb HDD 10000rpm and 500gb HDD 5200rpm will you buy 500gb one just because it has 2x more GBs? first xbox was using modified pentium CPU while gamecube and wii are using power pc based CPUs that are 2-3x more powerful than standard CPUs used in pc(not to mention faster memory and better GPU).

wii gets horrible ports cause developers are lazy Dead Rising on wii could handle same amount of zombies on screen in its version but capcom was simply lazy - ps2 games pulled more enemies on screen than heavenly sword on steady framerate so how come capcom couldn't pull at least 400-500 of them on better console?

besides how many games actually pulled TEV in development so far? maybe 6-7 and all of them were on gamecube - just look at Rogue Squadron II, Wave Race, Star Fox Adventures or F-Zero GX.



Seraphic_Sixaxis on 18 April 2009
Soriku said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
When it comes right down to it, it doesn't matter how much the wii sells, it will never be as strong as the PS3 or the X360, those two consoles are much more powerful therefore they will ALWAYS have exclusives that'll never show up on wii and that is a fact.

 

A lot of Wii games won't be on HD consoles either.

So true right? instead some of them will be shared with the PSP or even the DS. :D