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Katilian on 18 April 2009
madkiller said:
Katilian said:
madkiller said:

Actually, I did not say "people" don't find it funny, I said I don't. And frankly, I can point out a million examples of complete crap that "people" like, so I really wouldn't use that argument. Average "people" are not all that intelligent...and I am putting that nicely here so that I don't make a big thing out of something so unimportant.

 

You know, the intelligent thing to have done is point out why it wasn't a success, rather than saying everyone who disagrees with your opinion is an idiot.

 

Did you even read the thread? I NEVER said it was not successful...

 

Let me rephrase then, why it wasn't the most sucessful comedy of the 80s, though I have a feeling you knew exactly what I meant anyway.

 



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madkiller on 18 April 2009
The Ghost of RubangB said:
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The Ghost of RubangB said:
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@wrongitty wrongmcsteen,

By "most successful comedy of the 1980s" I meant "it made more money than any other comedy in the 1980s." Don't try to turn this into a semantics battle. You know what I meant, and you were wrong. The goal of big budget films is to make money. Ghostbusters succeeded at that goal harder than any other comedy in the 80's. That makes it the most successful comedy of the 1980's.

Success can be measured in many more ways than just box office sales. Plus, I said it was very successful, but once again, you cannot claim most successful for any movie. And sorry, but you are the one that is wrong, in every way. One thing any educated person would understand is that comedies do not age well. Over time comedies are just not nearly as good as they were when they were released. It would be the same if you watched a comedian from the 50s or 60s. Their comedy would not be funny anymore because comedy is usually based on what is going on in the world at the time. The bits you see from 20, 30, 40 years ago is just not funny anymore. The comedy in Ghostbusters is over 20 years old, and I'm sorry if you still like it, but for me, it is not funny at all anymore. This is especially true because as a kid I probably saw that movie a million times like everyone else at the time. Every movie or anything else gets old and stale when you have seen or played it way too many times...

Wow, you're getting wronger and wronger.

You're talking about standup comedy.  There was a huge shift in how standup comedy worked thanks to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.  You might call it a standup revolution that changed standup forever.  So yes, standup comedy from before that change has aged horribly.  Standup since then... hasn't changed at all.

Film comedies have nothing to do with standup comedy.

When you're talking about films... aw screw it, just go to Google and type in "funniest films of all time" or "best comedies of all time" and tell me what years they came out in..  It's gonna be Dr. Strangelove from 1964, Ghostbusters from 1984, and a bunch of other stuff that goes all the way back to Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, and the Marx Brothers.  Not too many movies from the 2000s though.

You want to talk about subjective taste, go ahead.  I'm a film major.  It's really fun for me.  If you want to talk about "success" in a vague way, then you need to discuss the artistic goals of the work in question, to determine whether it succeeded or not.  But if you want to talk about the success of a big budget blockbuster film, that goal was definitely to make a ton of money.  So yes, Ghostbusters was the most successful comedy of the 1980s.  It is also highly regarded as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

 

And no no no no, real good art doesn't get stale.  I still love the Beatles, Super Mario Bros., Ghostbusters, the Muppets, Shakespeare, Dr. Seuss, Picasso, a nice glass of champagne, a good sonnet, and a good burrito, and I always will.  How dare you.

 

Well, the fact that you used the word "wronger" tells me that I am done arguing with you...I guess your studies don't include learning how to speak and write, which is strange considering you are a film major.

 



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madkiller on 18 April 2009
Katilian said:
madkiller said:
Katilian said:
madkiller said:

Actually, I did not say "people" don't find it funny, I said I don't. And frankly, I can point out a million examples of complete crap that "people" like, so I really wouldn't use that argument. Average "people" are not all that intelligent...and I am putting that nicely here so that I don't make a big thing out of something so unimportant.

 

You know, the intelligent thing to have done is point out why it wasn't a success, rather than saying everyone who disagrees with your opinion is an idiot.

 

Did you even read the thread? I NEVER said it was not successful...

 

Let me rephrase then, why it wasn't the most sucessful comedy of the 80s, though I have a feeling you knew exactly what I meant anyway.

 

I already answered that question when I said that you cannot say that of any movie ever. There are no specific reasons, there is just no fair way of judging anything as the most successful ever. There are too many variables and most are subjective.

 



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thekitchensink on 18 April 2009
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
HIGH FIVE SUPERCHUNK!


@wrongitty wrongmcsteen,

By "most successful comedy of the 1980s" I meant "it made more money than any other comedy in the 1980s." Don't try to turn this into a semantics battle. You know what I meant, and you were wrong. The goal of big budget films is to make money. Ghostbusters succeeded at that goal harder than any other comedy in the 80's. That makes it the most successful comedy of the 1980's.

Success can be measured in many more ways than just box office sales. Plus, I said it was very successful, but once again, you cannot claim most successful for any movie. And sorry, but you are the one that is wrong, in every way. One thing any educated person would understand is that comedies do not age well. Over time comedies are just not nearly as good as they were when they were released. It would be the same if you watched a comedian from the 50s or 60s. Their comedy would not be funny anymore because comedy is usually based on what is going on in the world at the time. The bits you see from 20, 30, 40 years ago is just not funny anymore. The comedy in Ghostbusters is over 20 years old, and I'm sorry if you still like it, but for me, it is not funny at all anymore. This is especially true because as a kid I probably saw that movie a million times like everyone else at the time. Every movie or anything else gets old and stale when you have seen or played it way too many times...

Wow, you're getting wronger and wronger.

You're talking about standup comedy.  There was a huge shift in how standup comedy worked thanks to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.  You might call it a standup revolution that changed standup forever.  So yes, standup comedy from before that change has aged horribly.  Standup since then... hasn't changed at all.

Film comedies have nothing to do with standup comedy.

When you're talking about films... aw screw it, just go to Google and type in "funniest films of all time" or "best comedies of all time" and tell me what years they came out in..  It's gonna be Dr. Strangelove from 1964, Ghostbusters from 1984, and a bunch of other stuff that goes all the way back to Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, and the Marx Brothers.  Not too many movies from the 2000s though.

You want to talk about subjective taste, go ahead.  I'm a film major.  It's really fun for me.  If you want to talk about "success" in a vague way, then you need to discuss the artistic goals of the work in question, to determine whether it succeeded or not.  But if you want to talk about the success of a big budget blockbuster film, that goal was definitely to make a ton of money.  So yes, Ghostbusters was the most successful comedy of the 1980s.  It is also highly regarded as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

 

And no no no no, real good art doesn't get stale.  I still love the Beatles, Super Mario Bros., Ghostbusters, the Muppets, Shakespeare, Dr. Seuss, Picasso, a nice glass of champagne, a good sonnet, and a good burrito, and I always will.  How dare you.

 

Well, the fact that you used the word "wronger" tells me that I am done arguing with you...I guess your studies don't include learning how to speak and write, which is strange considering you are a film major.

 

 

Far be it from you, I suppose, to actually refute what he says instead of picking on a single word?

Then again, it's pretty obvious that anyone who likes anything more than a few years old is stupid.  Guess you'll be getting rid of your entire collection of games from this generation once the next consoles come out, lest you be deemed "not all that intelligent."



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madkiller on 18 April 2009
thekitchensink said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
HIGH FIVE SUPERCHUNK!


@wrongitty wrongmcsteen,

By "most successful comedy of the 1980s" I meant "it made more money than any other comedy in the 1980s." Don't try to turn this into a semantics battle. You know what I meant, and you were wrong. The goal of big budget films is to make money. Ghostbusters succeeded at that goal harder than any other comedy in the 80's. That makes it the most successful comedy of the 1980's.

Success can be measured in many more ways than just box office sales. Plus, I said it was very successful, but once again, you cannot claim most successful for any movie. And sorry, but you are the one that is wrong, in every way. One thing any educated person would understand is that comedies do not age well. Over time comedies are just not nearly as good as they were when they were released. It would be the same if you watched a comedian from the 50s or 60s. Their comedy would not be funny anymore because comedy is usually based on what is going on in the world at the time. The bits you see from 20, 30, 40 years ago is just not funny anymore. The comedy in Ghostbusters is over 20 years old, and I'm sorry if you still like it, but for me, it is not funny at all anymore. This is especially true because as a kid I probably saw that movie a million times like everyone else at the time. Every movie or anything else gets old and stale when you have seen or played it way too many times...

Wow, you're getting wronger and wronger.

You're talking about standup comedy.  There was a huge shift in how standup comedy worked thanks to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.  You might call it a standup revolution that changed standup forever.  So yes, standup comedy from before that change has aged horribly.  Standup since then... hasn't changed at all.

Film comedies have nothing to do with standup comedy.

When you're talking about films... aw screw it, just go to Google and type in "funniest films of all time" or "best comedies of all time" and tell me what years they came out in..  It's gonna be Dr. Strangelove from 1964, Ghostbusters from 1984, and a bunch of other stuff that goes all the way back to Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, and the Marx Brothers.  Not too many movies from the 2000s though.

You want to talk about subjective taste, go ahead.  I'm a film major.  It's really fun for me.  If you want to talk about "success" in a vague way, then you need to discuss the artistic goals of the work in question, to determine whether it succeeded or not.  But if you want to talk about the success of a big budget blockbuster film, that goal was definitely to make a ton of money.  So yes, Ghostbusters was the most successful comedy of the 1980s.  It is also highly regarded as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

 

And no no no no, real good art doesn't get stale.  I still love the Beatles, Super Mario Bros., Ghostbusters, the Muppets, Shakespeare, Dr. Seuss, Picasso, a nice glass of champagne, a good sonnet, and a good burrito, and I always will.  How dare you.

 

Well, the fact that you used the word "wronger" tells me that I am done arguing with you...I guess your studies don't include learning how to speak and write, which is strange considering you are a film major.

 

 

Far be it from you, I suppose, to actually refute what he says instead of picking on a single word?

Then again, it's pretty obvious that anyone who likes anything more than a few years old is stupid.  Guess you'll be getting rid of your entire collection of games from this generation once the next consoles come out, lest you be deemed "not all that intelligent."

I like plenty of things that are old. There are many old comedies that are way better than Ghostbusters. Groundhog Day, Ferris Buehler's Day Off, and Caddyshack come to mind.

 



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thekitchensink on 18 April 2009
madkiller said:
thekitchensink said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
HIGH FIVE SUPERCHUNK!


@wrongitty wrongmcsteen,

By "most successful comedy of the 1980s" I meant "it made more money than any other comedy in the 1980s." Don't try to turn this into a semantics battle. You know what I meant, and you were wrong. The goal of big budget films is to make money. Ghostbusters succeeded at that goal harder than any other comedy in the 80's. That makes it the most successful comedy of the 1980's.

Success can be measured in many more ways than just box office sales. Plus, I said it was very successful, but once again, you cannot claim most successful for any movie. And sorry, but you are the one that is wrong, in every way. One thing any educated person would understand is that comedies do not age well. Over time comedies are just not nearly as good as they were when they were released. It would be the same if you watched a comedian from the 50s or 60s. Their comedy would not be funny anymore because comedy is usually based on what is going on in the world at the time. The bits you see from 20, 30, 40 years ago is just not funny anymore. The comedy in Ghostbusters is over 20 years old, and I'm sorry if you still like it, but for me, it is not funny at all anymore. This is especially true because as a kid I probably saw that movie a million times like everyone else at the time. Every movie or anything else gets old and stale when you have seen or played it way too many times...

Wow, you're getting wronger and wronger.

You're talking about standup comedy.  There was a huge shift in how standup comedy worked thanks to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.  You might call it a standup revolution that changed standup forever.  So yes, standup comedy from before that change has aged horribly.  Standup since then... hasn't changed at all.

Film comedies have nothing to do with standup comedy.

When you're talking about films... aw screw it, just go to Google and type in "funniest films of all time" or "best comedies of all time" and tell me what years they came out in..  It's gonna be Dr. Strangelove from 1964, Ghostbusters from 1984, and a bunch of other stuff that goes all the way back to Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, and the Marx Brothers.  Not too many movies from the 2000s though.

You want to talk about subjective taste, go ahead.  I'm a film major.  It's really fun for me.  If you want to talk about "success" in a vague way, then you need to discuss the artistic goals of the work in question, to determine whether it succeeded or not.  But if you want to talk about the success of a big budget blockbuster film, that goal was definitely to make a ton of money.  So yes, Ghostbusters was the most successful comedy of the 1980s.  It is also highly regarded as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

 

And no no no no, real good art doesn't get stale.  I still love the Beatles, Super Mario Bros., Ghostbusters, the Muppets, Shakespeare, Dr. Seuss, Picasso, a nice glass of champagne, a good sonnet, and a good burrito, and I always will.  How dare you.

 

Well, the fact that you used the word "wronger" tells me that I am done arguing with you...I guess your studies don't include learning how to speak and write, which is strange considering you are a film major.

 

 

Far be it from you, I suppose, to actually refute what he says instead of picking on a single word?

Then again, it's pretty obvious that anyone who likes anything more than a few years old is stupid.  Guess you'll be getting rid of your entire collection of games from this generation once the next consoles come out, lest you be deemed "not all that intelligent."

I like plenty of things that are old. There are many old comedies that are way better than Ghostbusters. Groundhog Day, Ferris Buehler's Day Off, and Caddyshack come to mind.

 

 

You're aware that those are all as old or almost as old as Ghostbusters, right?



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Katilian on 18 April 2009
madkiller said:

I already answered that question when I said that you cannot say that of any movie ever. There are no specific reasons, there is just no fair way of judging anything as the most successful ever. There are too many variables and most are subjective.

 

I'd say that judging movies, a product which is designed to a) entertain and b) make money, by the a) number of people who saw it and b) the amount of money it made, two objective variables which are closely connected, is an excellent way of judging their success. Sure you can argue that not everyone who saw it was entertained, but I doubt the chances of a significantly lower grossing movie to have entertained more people.



madkiller on 18 April 2009
thekitchensink said:
madkiller said:
thekitchensink said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
HIGH FIVE SUPERCHUNK!


@wrongitty wrongmcsteen,

By "most successful comedy of the 1980s" I meant "it made more money than any other comedy in the 1980s." Don't try to turn this into a semantics battle. You know what I meant, and you were wrong. The goal of big budget films is to make money. Ghostbusters succeeded at that goal harder than any other comedy in the 80's. That makes it the most successful comedy of the 1980's.

Success can be measured in many more ways than just box office sales. Plus, I said it was very successful, but once again, you cannot claim most successful for any movie. And sorry, but you are the one that is wrong, in every way. One thing any educated person would understand is that comedies do not age well. Over time comedies are just not nearly as good as they were when they were released. It would be the same if you watched a comedian from the 50s or 60s. Their comedy would not be funny anymore because comedy is usually based on what is going on in the world at the time. The bits you see from 20, 30, 40 years ago is just not funny anymore. The comedy in Ghostbusters is over 20 years old, and I'm sorry if you still like it, but for me, it is not funny at all anymore. This is especially true because as a kid I probably saw that movie a million times like everyone else at the time. Every movie or anything else gets old and stale when you have seen or played it way too many times...

Wow, you're getting wronger and wronger.

You're talking about standup comedy.  There was a huge shift in how standup comedy worked thanks to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.  You might call it a standup revolution that changed standup forever.  So yes, standup comedy from before that change has aged horribly.  Standup since then... hasn't changed at all.

Film comedies have nothing to do with standup comedy.

When you're talking about films... aw screw it, just go to Google and type in "funniest films of all time" or "best comedies of all time" and tell me what years they came out in..  It's gonna be Dr. Strangelove from 1964, Ghostbusters from 1984, and a bunch of other stuff that goes all the way back to Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, and the Marx Brothers.  Not too many movies from the 2000s though.

You want to talk about subjective taste, go ahead.  I'm a film major.  It's really fun for me.  If you want to talk about "success" in a vague way, then you need to discuss the artistic goals of the work in question, to determine whether it succeeded or not.  But if you want to talk about the success of a big budget blockbuster film, that goal was definitely to make a ton of money.  So yes, Ghostbusters was the most successful comedy of the 1980s.  It is also highly regarded as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

 

And no no no no, real good art doesn't get stale.  I still love the Beatles, Super Mario Bros., Ghostbusters, the Muppets, Shakespeare, Dr. Seuss, Picasso, a nice glass of champagne, a good sonnet, and a good burrito, and I always will.  How dare you.

 

Well, the fact that you used the word "wronger" tells me that I am done arguing with you...I guess your studies don't include learning how to speak and write, which is strange considering you are a film major.

 

 

Far be it from you, I suppose, to actually refute what he says instead of picking on a single word?

Then again, it's pretty obvious that anyone who likes anything more than a few years old is stupid.  Guess you'll be getting rid of your entire collection of games from this generation once the next consoles come out, lest you be deemed "not all that intelligent."

I like plenty of things that are old. There are many old comedies that are way better than Ghostbusters. Groundhog Day, Ferris Buehler's Day Off, and Caddyshack come to mind.

 

 

You're aware that those are all as old or almost as old as Ghostbusters, right?

Uh, yeah, I said they were old in my post. You are trying to say I said anything that is old sucks. I never said anything like that. I said that comedies don't age well.

 



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The Ghost of RubangB on 18 April 2009
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
madkiller said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
HIGH FIVE SUPERCHUNK!


@wrongitty wrongmcsteen,

By "most successful comedy of the 1980s" I meant "it made more money than any other comedy in the 1980s." Don't try to turn this into a semantics battle. You know what I meant, and you were wrong. The goal of big budget films is to make money. Ghostbusters succeeded at that goal harder than any other comedy in the 80's. That makes it the most successful comedy of the 1980's.

Success can be measured in many more ways than just box office sales. Plus, I said it was very successful, but once again, you cannot claim most successful for any movie. And sorry, but you are the one that is wrong, in every way. One thing any educated person would understand is that comedies do not age well. Over time comedies are just not nearly as good as they were when they were released. It would be the same if you watched a comedian from the 50s or 60s. Their comedy would not be funny anymore because comedy is usually based on what is going on in the world at the time. The bits you see from 20, 30, 40 years ago is just not funny anymore. The comedy in Ghostbusters is over 20 years old, and I'm sorry if you still like it, but for me, it is not funny at all anymore. This is especially true because as a kid I probably saw that movie a million times like everyone else at the time. Every movie or anything else gets old and stale when you have seen or played it way too many times...

Wow, you're getting wronger and wronger.

You're talking about standup comedy.  There was a huge shift in how standup comedy worked thanks to Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.  You might call it a standup revolution that changed standup forever.  So yes, standup comedy from before that change has aged horribly.  Standup since then... hasn't changed at all.

Film comedies have nothing to do with standup comedy.

When you're talking about films... aw screw it, just go to Google and type in "funniest films of all time" or "best comedies of all time" and tell me what years they came out in..  It's gonna be Dr. Strangelove from 1964, Ghostbusters from 1984, and a bunch of other stuff that goes all the way back to Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, and the Marx Brothers.  Not too many movies from the 2000s though.

You want to talk about subjective taste, go ahead.  I'm a film major.  It's really fun for me.  If you want to talk about "success" in a vague way, then you need to discuss the artistic goals of the work in question, to determine whether it succeeded or not.  But if you want to talk about the success of a big budget blockbuster film, that goal was definitely to make a ton of money.  So yes, Ghostbusters was the most successful comedy of the 1980s.  It is also highly regarded as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

 

And no no no no, real good art doesn't get stale.  I still love the Beatles, Super Mario Bros., Ghostbusters, the Muppets, Shakespeare, Dr. Seuss, Picasso, a nice glass of champagne, a good sonnet, and a good burrito, and I always will.  How dare you.

Well, the fact that you used the word "wronger" tells me that I am done arguing with you...I guess your studies don't include learning how to speak and write, which is strange considering you are a film major.

Good idea.  Give up because I made up a word.  It's easier than admitting how you're the wrongest ever and were just proven wrong by the correctest argument in the world.

If you're gonna get all grammar police on me, you shouldn't start sentences with words like "plus" or "and sorry."  You might also try paragraphs or sentences that aren't run-ons.  But that's not the point...

 

 

American Film Institute's 100 Years... 100 Laughs list.  It's their top 100 comedies. The top 10 go like this:

1959, 1982, 1964, 1977, 1933, 1974, 1970, 1934, 1967, 1980.

 

madkiller said:
One thing any educated person would understand is that comedies do not age well. Over time comedies are just not nearly as good as they were when they were released.

Proven wrong.  And you even insulted the education of people who disagree with this point.  Classy.



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The Ghost of RubangB on 18 April 2009

Oh, he started shifting his argument while I typed that up. He went from "comedy doesn't age well, whether it's standup or film" to "I get to decide which 1980s Bill Murray comedies aged well and which didn't."

Lame.



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