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vlad321 on 16 April 2009
halogamer1989 said:

vlad321 said:
halogamer1989 said:
Onyxmeth said:

Halogamer, weren't you in support of that silly 9-12 project just a few weeks ago? Seceding from the Union seems to be the polar opposite of that.

Not really no.  It was based upon principles that conservatives hold dear to get our voices heard by BO and Congress.  This is another method.

 

 

Oh... so you are telling me it's NOT about being american, but conservative? Man I was fooled by that site for sure!

The 9 principles:

1. America Is Good.
2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.
God “The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained.” from George Washington’s first Inaugural address.
3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
Honesty “I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider to be the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man.” George Washington
4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.
Marriage/Family “It is in the love of one’s family only that heartfelt happiness is known. By a law of our nature, we cannot be happy without the endearing connections of a family.” Thomas Jefferson
5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.
Justice “I deem one of the essential principles of our government… equal and exact justice to all men of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political.” Thomas Jefferson
6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.
Life, Liberty, & The Pursuit of Happiness “Everyone has a natural right to choose that vocation in life which he thinks most likely to give him comfortable subsistence.” Thomas Jefferson
7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.
Charity “It is not everyone who asketh that deserveth charity; all however, are worth of the inquiry or the deserving may suffer.” George Washington
8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.
On your right to disagree “In a free and republican government, you cannot restrain the voice of the multitude; every man will speak as he thinks, or more properly without thinking.” George Washington
9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.
Who works for whom? “I consider the people who constitute a society or a nation as the source of all authority in that nation.” Thomas Jefferson

the 12 values:

  • Honesty
  • Reverence
  • Hope
  • Thrift
  • Humility
  • Charity
  • Sincerity
  • Moderation
  • Hard Work
  • Courage
  • Personal Responsibility
  • Gratitude

Sound conservative to you?  I thought so.

Oh, so it's NOT american? Gotcha. Way to be manipulative. Please try again with whatever plan you try to push out again. American =/= Conservative.

 



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MontanaHatchet on 16 April 2009

Imagine if all countries followed the codes, laws, and practices of their founders. This world wouldn't have made much progress. And yes, you are confused politically. And you're a "realist?" Are the rest of us just blind people, where you're living in the real world where seceding from the United States is the best thing to do?

Didn't you have a Lincoln avatar at some point? Nice job trying to destroy his work.



 

 

vlad321 on 16 April 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
Imagine if all countries followed the codes, laws, and practices of their founders. This world wouldn't have made much progress. And yes, you are confused politically. And you're a "realist?" Are the rest of us just blind people, where you're living in the real world where seceding from the United States is the best thing to do?

Didn't you have a Lincoln avatar at some point? Nice job trying to destroy his work.

 

I asked hm about it, he said he's one of his favorites. The hipocrisy is s thick I can feel it ooze out ofmy screen.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Onyxmeth on 16 April 2009
halogamer1989 said:
Onyxmeth said:

Halogamer, weren't you in support of that silly 9-12 project just a few weeks ago? Seceding from the Union seems to be the polar opposite of that.

Not really no.  It was based upon principles that conservatives hold dear to get our voices heard by BO and Congress.  This is another method.

 

So in other words, you'll just back anything "conservatives"(heavy on the quotations there) support simply as a means to get a voice in Congress? Classy.

Tell me sir, for all of your big internet talk, do you ever actually go to Washington and do something to change it?

 



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vlad321 on 16 April 2009
Onyxmeth said:
halogamer1989 said:
Onyxmeth said:

Halogamer, weren't you in support of that silly 9-12 project just a few weeks ago? Seceding from the Union seems to be the polar opposite of that.

Not really no.  It was based upon principles that conservatives hold dear to get our voices heard by BO and Congress.  This is another method.

 

So in other words, you'll just back anything "conservatives"(heavy on the quotations there) support simply as a means to get a voice in Congress? Classy.

Tell me sir, for all of your big internet talk, do you ever actually go to Washington and do something to change it?

 

If anything he's saying conservatives are manipulative, lying bastards who try to gain sympathy by calling anyone who doesn't follow them as un-American.

 



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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halogamer1989 on 16 April 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
Imagine if all countries followed the codes, laws, and practices of their founders. This world wouldn't have made much progress. And yes, you are confused politically. And you're a "realist?" Are the rest of us just blind people, where you're living in the real world where seceding from the United States is the best thing to do?

Didn't you have a Lincoln avatar at some point? Nice job trying to destroy his work.

Does nobody on this fuckin thread listen.  It is not about the Civil War (I am a Union guy).  It is about socialism vs individual states against an overbearing Obama admin.  Let me do a Chistian Bale: What don't you fucking understand?

I am sick and tired of explaining myself to people who continously want to insult and not professionally add to the conversation.

 

 

 



vlad321 on 16 April 2009
halogamer1989 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Imagine if all countries followed the codes, laws, and practices of their founders. This world wouldn't have made much progress. And yes, you are confused politically. And you're a "realist?" Are the rest of us just blind people, where you're living in the real world where seceding from the United States is the best thing to do?

Didn't you have a Lincoln avatar at some point? Nice job trying to destroy his work.

Does nobody on this fuckin thread listen.  It is not about the Civil War (I am a Union guy).  It is about socialism vs individual states against an overbearing Obama admin.  Let me do a Chistian Bale: What don't you fucking understand?

I am sick and tired of explaining myself to people who continously want to insult and not professionally add to the conversation.

 

 

 

You being so dumb as to want to secede.

Excuse the insult, I thought we were allowed to start once you started swearing.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

highwaystar101 on 16 April 2009
halogamer1989 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Onyxmeth said:

Halogamer, weren't you in support of that silly 9-12 project just a few weeks ago? Seceding from the Union seems to be the polar opposite of that.

 

He is a very confused person politically. He is extremist, but I don't think he knows what he's extremist about.

So were the founding fathers. And I told you on my OP that I am not an extremist but a realist responding to situations based upon weekly political climate. I am not confused politically. I am a conservative Republican, right of moderate on the spectrum. It depends on how current aspects of US politics are that determine my rationale. Now if confused can be substituted with opinionated that I guess I am. I am not a person with a follow x rationale @ all costs. Excuse me for not being a brick.

I know you are a conservative republican and I know your rationale changes with the political environment. But you have posted a thread claiming to be a realist talking about succeding from the US because 'at the end of the day' someone in the white house doesn't have the same ideas as you... I'm sorry to say it and I know I'm not politically minded, but that's confusion in my book.



mrjuju on 16 April 2009

So, yeah, I've seen what you guys have done with Texas, namely the downtown Houston and Dallas areas; and, well, if you guys do leave, I don't think we will be able to give you your security deposit back.

Sorry, but we need that $500 to repaint Oklahoma.



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halogamer1989 on 16 April 2009
vlad321 said:
halogamer1989 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Imagine if all countries followed the codes, laws, and practices of their founders. This world wouldn't have made much progress. And yes, you are confused politically. And you're a "realist?" Are the rest of us just blind people, where you're living in the real world where seceding from the United States is the best thing to do?

Didn't you have a Lincoln avatar at some point? Nice job trying to destroy his work.

Does nobody on this fuckin thread listen.  It is not about the Civil War (I am a Union guy).  It is about socialism vs individual states against an overbearing Obama admin.  Let me do a Chistian Bale: What don't you fucking understand?

I am sick and tired of explaining myself to people who continously want to insult and not professionally add to the conversation.

 

 

 

You being so dumb as to want to secede.

 

Ok.  You can pay taxes out the ass when the Obama crew comes to town if you feel so obliged.  You may also continue to be ignored by your representative govt for coverage of Bo the Dog instead of BHO coming out and trying to fix problems.  No feel free to continue to get screwed.  I'll understand.