hmm.. Lincoln and Mazda are both owned by Ford.. hmm... they are up there.. guess what consumer reports are as good to trust as review sites like VGCHartz, IGN, GameSpot, etc are for games. Basically most ratings are based on handling, safety, comfort, and other factors. The thing is how much safety is needed? How much leg room is really needed? Some of these things are best judged by the consumer and not some group that is making a paycheck to come up with their figures.

Its about time. As unfortunate as this is, one or more of the big 3 auto makers needed to fall. The restructured company that will be built from the ashes of GM will be a better, more efficient auto company that will be better for everyone. The time between the downfall and resurrection will be hard though.

Right, but then you blame GM for failing, or you blame the Union for strong arming GM into sign contracts that make them uncompetitive.

If not for the government, GM would just fold, and your dad would get nothing anyway.

I got into a really bad car crash last year. Guy slammed into the side of my vehicle doing 60mph. I doubt that id be alive if it wasnt for the fact my Ford Explorer has an insanely strong frame. I of course rebuilt my Explorer, had to replace some panels; the bumper; battery; the right front wheel assembly; ande a bunch of other stuff, and its driving 100% perfectly. All for $800 including being repainted.

Tell me how many foreign vehicles can do that? I doubt many can.

@ssj12, Consumer Reports does their own testing and survey millions of consumers. Yes, American companies are improving on reliability but Japanese still hold the edge. Also, this is by entire brand so a few unreliable cars can bring down the entire brand sometimes.

So what does this mean? Will GM and it's brands be sold, or will some brands be deleted altogether?

That is a bankruptcy judge who will make that decision, not "the government."

I blame GM.  They put all their eggs in the wrong baskets when they were a big enough company to diversify.  They went all "Big SUVs" with less attention everywhere else and only worked on hybrids or other enviromental cars when the government was offering handouts.

That and there "Quanity not quality" manufacturing policies.... where the factories would compete against each other to see who got jobs... but on the basis of total parts manufactured... not total useful parts manufactured.

The managers did far more harm in wastefull work, useless work, matierals ruined and other stuff then anything else.

Cause the bankruptcy lawyer isn't going to get any "coaching" about how econimists would like one of the biggest bankruptcies in the country with huge political ramifications will go.

Companies close- it's an inevitable fact of life. GM didn't' make quality cars that were good on the gas mileage.

In the immortal words of two famous guys:  Good fight- good night