i came to that conclusion a while ago, nintendo rocks, but it cant be your only system. probobly why i dont feel so betrayed as others.

i had everything for gameboy, nes, and snes. btu n64 to me looked like garbage (blur mania) had no games i wanted, and had a shit controller. so i just didnt buy it.

didnt get game cube either

ds i got for free and it blew my mind how cool and different it was, wii did the same and i bought it soon after.

if all i played was wii id go insane, but thats why i have a 360. wii is good, it just cant be your only system

heathen! lol jk :p

i agree with all of this

and thats why i say again you cant have just a wii, or you will go nuts

want cool games with difficulty, get a 360 or ps3.

wii rocks, but in very different ways it seems

@coasterlove

You exposed the main reason I have NEVER been a Nintendo fan. Even when I LOVED (worshiped) the first Nintendo, and loved plenty of games on the SNES (third parties except for Zelda and DKC games). The reason is this: Nintendo over-exploits its "flagship franchises" and never cares to create anything really new or interesting for their old-followers. This time around they created Wii Sports and Wii Fit, and Wii Music, and all their effort has gone after this "pot of gold" they found at the end of the Wii rainbow and really, who can blame them, it is business. The last time Nintendo did something very significant for their old-time followers was in the SNES era, with projects from RARE, the games utilizing the FX chip, and joint ventures as the one with Squaresoft to create SUPER MARIO RPG.

However I can't deny they've made the right choice "for themselves" everytime. Yeah, even with N64 and GC. They know their market, we're nobody to judge the decisions they had to make to preserve their business model. They have never changed their model. Yamauchi (founder and former president) once said they make consoles for THEIR games. It's always been the philosophy of the Nintendo company. They consider each of their systems is a system made to play Nintendo games. If other parties are interested in bringing their games to their platform that's alright, but they must abide by their rules. That's why they change their interface or design their hardware disregarding anything on the outside of their own company. N64: Cartridges are our business (big third parties like Square who think differently take your business sowehere else) how about the design of the N64 controller? the GC controller? Well, that's not good enough to make a "Street Fighter" work, well take that business somewhere else too. Nintendo just knows that interface was designed to work flawlessly with Mario, Zelda, etc, and it does.

And I always critiziced how so conformist they always were when on top the world. They had this absolute dominance over the handheld market, why couldn't they create the GAMEBOY ADVANCE YEARS EARLIER? and how about the DS? that could've certainly come out years earlier too. But of course they couldn't care less their audience changes, they choose not to change. Expect NOTHING from them to address their "hardcore followers" this E3 or for the rest of this generation. The Wii may still get titles like "Punch-Out!!" and another one or two unearthed old-franchise remakes, but absolutely nothing remotely close to what YOU THINK Nintendo must offer YOU. If you give it a deep thought you'll see easily that Nintendo has always been the same. They did revolutionize gaming with the NES and Gameboy, and even when they had the whole market to themselves that didn't change them, this time it'll be no different.

Did you actually played Excite Truck??? It's exactly the opposite of that.

This is your proof? Gotta try harder than that.

In my opinion, Nintendo and Sega both followed similar business models of producing mainly first party software and focusing on arcade style gameplay rather than pc quality graphics. Both relied on familiar ips.

Sony revolutionized the industry by focusing more on third parties and multimedia capability, and then Microsoft jumped in after Sony.

And Nintendo realized it was better off differentiating itself by making games more arcade-like again. So the Wii is pure Nintendo. We must remember that games like "track meet" existed on the NES that utilized stepping as input, so the balance board isn't really a new idea, and wii fit isn't really a new idea. Wii fit is the new track meet, which existed on the NES.

Nintendo always targeted a different market then Sony or Microsoft. The Nintendo/Sega arcadish core gamer is different from the Sony/Microsoft pc-style core gamer. Being a very broad gamer, I play both, but Sony did change the industry majorly, but Nintendo then figured out they were better off staying as Nintendo. My point is that people who claim that Nintendo was similar to Sony and Microsoft back in the day, and then they changed, are very confused people. Nintendo was always Nintendo.

i was gonna ask that too

Actually Sony did a lot to diversify the maket back in the old days of the PS1, I remember all those promotions on MTV and they even bring the PS1 to spingbreak events.

this idea
"Personally, I don't like the term hardcore that much because any gamer can be hardcore. I like the term traditional because since the days of Atari 2600, games have been similar in nature if you really think about it. You had a mission of sorts and had to figure it out and beat the bad guy or something along those lines. Now everything is about being simple and games where you can't and don't lose. Well, if you can't lose, you can't win either. I want games that give me some challenge too and just impress me. I haven't had that feeling with the Wii for a while now and I don't see it changing anytime soon."

is exactly my feelings towards the wii. I always see wii fans defending the wii saying it sells a lot and that is great, but i see it missing on the games i like the most and those games are what i have always liked.

People are bashing devs that say that is not profitable to develops for the wii also nintendo fans always brings some numbers out and says is not true, but what developers are saying is that only games "that [dont] give me some challenge" are big sellers on the wii. Mario and sonic Olympics, cocking mama and stuff like that is what selling the most from third parties, there are some rare cases with games like CoD but they sale poorly compared to HD consoles. what should publisher do ? only make "simple and games where you can't and don't lose"? Well if that ever happens i thing ill quit gaming.