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appolose said:
amp316 said:
@ appolose

Alright, alright, alright.

No effort was put toward Red Steel. You know this even though you never even played the game and the reviews told you this.

Also, you are right to get excited about a FPS that's being made by the developers of Go Diego Go! and that 50 Cent game.

I will let you get the last word now if you want.

You win?

 

 I think that because of what others have said, not just you.  Why should I take your word for it?

I notice you ignored what I said made me excited about the game despite their track record.

And you want to quit already? I've only posted twice :P

Why should you take their word for it?  Don't you make your own opinions?

What's exciting?  It's a shooter.  There's been others on the Wii.  Do you think that it'll be better than COD:WaW on the Wii?  Have you played that game or do you have an opinion on that one too based on what other people have told you?

I wanted to quit but you are way too easy so I decided to stay. 

 



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This game is just a FPS and doesn't seem to provide any revolutionary style of gameplay. I don't really understand the hype behind it.



Orca_Azure said:
This game is just a FPS and doesn't seem to provide any revolutionary style of gameplay. I don't really understand the hype behind it.

 

It is the controls. Wii games have made some games with dual-analog outdated (like Resident Evil). The re is heavy potential FPS control on the Wii, and The Conduit seems to address that potential, or at least try to fulfill some of it.



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outlawauron said:
the_bloodwalker said:
No All Seeing Eye mechanics? No puzzles with that device?

this guy has not played the game.

Because everyone MUST like the Conduit!

 

Just like everyone must like Killzone 2 ;).



amp316 said:
appolose said:

 

 I think that because of what others have said, not just you.  Why should I take your word for it?

I notice you ignored what I said made me excited about the game despite their track record.

And you want to quit already? I've only posted twice :P

Why should you take their word for it?  Don't you make your own opinions?

What's exciting?  It's a shooter.  There's been others on the Wii.  Do you think that it'll be better than COD:WaW on the Wii?  Have you played that game or do you have an opinion on that one too based on what other people have told you?

I wanted to quit but you are way too easy so I decided to stay. 

 

You said you were sick of everyone saying that The Conduit was the first 3rd party game with effort, because Red Steel was the first.  So, it was either I take your word for it or the majority's.

I own WaW.  It's o.k., but lacks a lot of modes and replayability.  Also, the graphics aren't terribly good (as opposed to what I do know about The Conduit).  The Conduit's going to have, at the very least, a far greater variety of multiplayer options (and the like), and if it has even a similar level of gameplay and originality (which shouldn't be hard), the diverseness of modes, the far better graphics, the exclusiveness of the title (which lends itself better to the systems strengths), and the incredible controls vastly outperform WaW (and especially MOH, another one I've played).  Yes, it could be another run-of-the-mill FPS, but we haven't even had that on the Wii yet.

 



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DMeisterJ said:
@ Zucas

He didn't attack this game, he said it was cliched and uninspired. Please re-read the OP. He praises gun variety, competent multiplayer, Wii Speak support, controls, and graphics. But because he doesn't ride the cock of this game like it's the best ever, he's part of a hypocritical group of people. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

Yea he did and that was the ONLY thing I commented on.  Let me repeat that again because apparently like you and the rest of humanity can't interpet what needs to be interpreted.  Instead they pick and choose what they want to be seen and comprehended instead of what should be comprehended.  I ONLY commented on how he thinks the game is cliche and uninspired.  I never said he didn't like the game or he thought the game was bad or that the game deserves some kind of respect.  I was actually ONE of the FEW when this game was first shown to say that it probably will be cliche and uninspired. I just find it funny that these media sites like to pick and choose which FPS games they want to call cliche and uninspired and which ones they don't.  People should bang on The Conduit for being that but no one did it for Killzone 2.  Why not?  Why is there this hypocrisy when it comes to shooters. 

People should have done it with games like Gears of War, all Call of Duty's, Resistance, etc.  But they didn't.  Instead they pick on games like Haze and I guess now The Conduit.  They all have the same problem of being cliche and uninspired but they pick on the few instead of the whole.  They do the god damn same thing for RPGs as well.  Why?  That's the answer I'm trying to get.  Maybe some of those shooters aren't as good as the others and don't deserve the same scores or praise but they all deserve the same god damn level of critique.  That's what's fair and that's what's right. 

 

That is the only thing I commented on.  If you weren't to full of your biased bullshit for once you'd maybe be able to tell that.  Instead you comprehended like a child and responded like one.  Read what I say don't interpret what you want to be seen.  Either do that or you get the fuck out of this thread and retake a comprehension course in logic.  I will not stand here and have such poorly constructed attacks based off one's self interests directed based off poor reasoning and judgment.  I know I deserve better than that.

 



appolose said:
amp316 said:
appolose said:

 

 I think that because of what others have said, not just you.  Why should I take your word for it?

I notice you ignored what I said made me excited about the game despite their track record.

And you want to quit already? I've only posted twice :P

Why should you take their word for it?  Don't you make your own opinions?

What's exciting?  It's a shooter.  There's been others on the Wii.  Do you think that it'll be better than COD:WaW on the Wii?  Have you played that game or do you have an opinion on that one too based on what other people have told you?

I wanted to quit but you are way too easy so I decided to stay. 

 

You said you were sick of everyone saying that The Conduit was the first 3rd party game with effort, because Red Steel was the first.  So, it was either I take your word for it or the majority's.

I own WaW.  It's o.k., but lacks a lot of modes and replayability.  Also, the graphics aren't terribly good (as opposed to what I do know about The Conduit).  The Conduit's going to have, at the very least, a far greater variety of multiplayer options (and the like), and if it has even a similar level of gameplay and originality (which shouldn't be hard), the diverseness of modes, the far better graphics, the exclusiveness of the title (which lends itself better to the systems strengths), and the incredible controls vastly outperform WaW (and especially MOH, another one I've played).  Yes, it could be another run-of-the-mill FPS, but we haven't even had that on the Wii yet.

 

I don't think that anyone ever accused Red Steel of not having effort put forth.  The problem with the game is the fact that it was put out a little early in order to reach the launch date.  This resulted in some minor bugs.  The controls for the sword play were a bit clunky but this was the first game to ever try it.  The shooting controls were also the first of it's kind along with COD 3 which was released on the same day if I'm not mistaken.  The graphics were actually really good.  If you don't believe me, look at some screenshots.  The four player split screen was basic but fun.  Unfortunately, you're the type of guy that reads reviews and bases your opinions on this.  You aren't the type of guy that actually plays a game and comes to your own opinion. 

What makes you think that the controls in the Conduit will be incredible?  Honestly?  Is this what you read someone say?  You also say that they will vastly outperform COD: WaW and especially MoH.  This is laughable.  I think that I'd be with the majority when I say that MoH's controls are much better than COD: WaW's.  Not that I care about being in the majority, but that seems to be important to you.  This brings me to another point.  I don't forsee the Conduit's controls being better than MoH's. 

I just hope that the Conduit is decent because the Wii needs more decent shooters.

 



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griffinA said:
All I can say is that when Conduit reviews start rolling in, whether they are good or bad, this community will explode

I don't even want to get involved in those because it's obvious how it will go.  One side will hate it just because it's a good visuall impressive Wii shooter and the other side will love it because of that.  And I'm sure the reviewers will review it on those things as well.  Wonder if we'll at least get a clear view on the game eh.

 



amp316 said:
appolose said:

You said you were sick of everyone saying that The Conduit was the first 3rd party game with effort, because Red Steel was the first.  So, it was either I take your word for it or the majority's.

I own WaW.  It's o.k., but lacks a lot of modes and replayability.  Also, the graphics aren't terribly good (as opposed to what I do know about The Conduit).  The Conduit's going to have, at the very least, a far greater variety of multiplayer options (and the like), and if it has even a similar level of gameplay and originality (which shouldn't be hard), the diverseness of modes, the far better graphics, the exclusiveness of the title (which lends itself better to the systems strengths), and the incredible controls vastly outperform WaW (and especially MOH, another one I've played).  Yes, it could be another run-of-the-mill FPS, but we haven't even had that on the Wii yet.

 

I don't think that anyone ever accused Red Steel of not having effort put forth.  The problem with the game is the fact that it was put out a little early in order to reach the launch date.  This resulted in some minor bugs.  The controls for the sword play were a bit clunky but this was the first game to ever try it.  The shooting controls were also the first of it's kind along with COD 3 which was released on the same day if I'm not mistaken.  The graphics were actually really good.  If you don't believe me, look at some screenshots.  The four player split screen was basic but fun.  Unfortunately, you're the type of guy that reads reviews and bases your opinions on this.  You aren't the type of guy that actually plays a game and comes to your own opinion. 

What makes you think that the controls in the Conduit will be incredible?  Honestly?  Is this what you read someone say?  You also say that they will vastly outperform COD: WaW and especially MoH.  This is laughable.  I think that I'd be with the majority when I say that MoH's controls are much better than COD: WaW's.  Not that I care about being in the majority, but that seems to be important to you.  This brings me to another point.  I don't forsee the Conduit's controls being better than MoH's. 

I just hope that the Conduit is decent because the Wii needs more decent shooters.

 

"Unfortunately, you're the type of guy that reads reviews and bases your opinions on this.  You aren't the type of guy that actually plays a game and comes to your own opinion".

When that's all I have to go on (like I said, you claimed it was good, everyone else doesn't.  What choicewould be the better one?), then that's all I have.  Furthermore, that is the issue: people are excited about this game because all other effort sucked.  So, bringing up reviews and other people's opinions is quite relevant to the issue.  They don't think there's really been any efforts, The Conduit obviously has effort going for it, so there excited about it. I'm merely defending mine and everyone elses excitement over the game.

A fully customizable control scheme, everything from a full ranging deadzone to any-button layout, is better than either MOH or WaW. Furthermore, intuitive use of the Wiimote is obvious from gameplay videos (the gun that fires a rocket (or something like it) that follows the IR pointer), and another such weapon put it on par with the intuitiveness of MOH's controls.  And I said the multiplayer modes and obviously better graphics will outperform the offerings of the others (notwithstanding, Red Steels' splitscreen (which I care little for)), and as it won't be too hard to match the gameplay efforts of either MOH or WaW, then the Conduit has quite the jump on them.  I'm not saying the multiplayer modes will be great efforts, but if I'm given the choice between nothing and something, which would be a better choice?

"I just hope that the Conduit is decent because the Wii needs more decent shooters".

We can both agree on that.



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