No, if you read my last statement, I said "the more i think about it, the more I agree that nature should take it course. Also your just being as hypocritical as I am, because you state that I must be 100% for or else I'm not really pro life yet why does not the same logic apply to you?

This doesn't really make sense. Pro-life by definition should be an 'ALL' position. Pro-choice is an all position in that you believe it is always the right for the mother to choose, even if you don't agree with her reasons for seeking an abortion.

Very few people would say that abortion is NEVER OK, but if you believe in full right to life of the foetus then that would be your position.  If in any scenario you think abortion is acceptable, then that means you do not believe that the foetus has the same rights to life as the mother, if this is the case then you aren't really pro-life.  Once you give up the position of total right to life of the foetus from conception your argument loses it's grounding.  You are now saying the foetus doesn't have a total right to life but we want to determine when that point is according to our criteria.  Pro-choicers realise the hypocrisy in this position and acknowledge that if you don't believe in the total right to life of the foetus from conception then the mother is the person that should be allowed to make that decision.

Of course the mother doesn't have total control over this decision and in most countries now, the decision to abort after a certain point can be taken from the mother, usually based on viability of the foetus or perceived lack of necessity of an abortion according to medical professionals.  This is not different from the rights of parents to decide what is best for their children, but the right of the courts to intervene if they determine that the children's rights are being infringed upon. 

Finally regarding the issue of movement, i don't see how this is relevant.  Babies can start to move from about 15-16 weeks post conception, but so can many living things, including some plants.  Movement doesn't signify any significant change in the foetus.  Traditionally, the quickening or the period when foetal movement is first detectable by the mother was thought to signify the attainment of a soul but since it is known from EEG readings that the brain starts to function much earlier than this, at about 6-7 weeks, this can't really be considered a significant factor.

I agree with you on this issue, but I'm absolutely dumbfounded on how his reasoning, and however ridiculous it may have been, had anything to do with liberalism

Conservatism, my bad lol. Was actually upset by what he said and got myself confused.

The arrogance of humanity, believing it has a right to remove life in its most innocent state.

It's murder, it's a crime and it does tremendous damage emotionally do the women who fall for the bull crap arguments promoted by the pro-choice crowd. Knowing a woman who has gone through it, I can say that the sheer level of emotional trauma and heart ache only increases over time. Even though she was surrounded by those who praised her choice, as liberating and taking a stand for women rights, she now understands the stupidity and arrogance of that crowd for their perverted views and manipulative rhetoric. It’s not an issue about liberation and woman’s rights, rather it’s the ultimate scheme of control and a concerted effort to devalue human life from groups who are for all intents and purposes anti-human.

Environmentalists, Marxist and anyone else who promote agendas blaming humanity for every possible ill in the world; look at the global warming crowd, in the face of mounting evidence they still march forward demanding the lowering of the quality of life and promoting agendas which would devastate developing countries and the human condition.

Probably not worth writing a response as I can already tell you will pay no attention to it.

Speaking of....

@Maskedpainter

The arrogance of humanity, believing it has a right to remove choice from a woman.

It's opression, it's wrong,  it does tremendous damage emotionally to the women who fall for the bull crap arguments promoted by the pro-life crowd. Knowing a woman who has gone through it, I can say that the sheer level of emotional trauma and heart ache only increases over time. Even though she was surrounded by those who praised her, for being obedient and bringing a life into the world, they told her it would be liberating and taking a stand for the unborn's rights, She now understands the stupidity and arrogance of that crowd for their religious views and manipulative rhetoric, telling her it's wrong to terminate ANY time after conception. It’s not an issue about liberation of the unborn or women, it's an issue of when significant brain activity starts.

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Parody FTW.

Oh, by the way, abortion is not murder since murder by definition is the "Unlawful killing of another human being". Abortion is not murder, it's just killing. Not much better, but you shouldn't misrepresent words. Learn the definiton. Meat isn't murder,  abortion isn't murder, because they're not against the law.

My 2 cents:

If you aren't pregnant where the baby will cause serious complications, then you need to STFU and keep quiet by the simple fact that you don't know shit about the situation therefore you don't deserve to making any judgments on what is best. Hence, I am all pro-choice.

However I don't like abortion and I think that a woman can decide well enough whether to abort or not within the first few months. However, it's not my place to tell her yes or no, plain and simple.