1) I agree it is shit for the rich, but a godsend for the poor. My dad hates it because he earns maybe within the top 2-3% of the country and has private health care, so he hates paying for it with a passion. However, for me, a guy who has no money whatsoever and is up to his eyes in debt, I would be f**ked if it was funded differently. It taught me to respect the facilities we have... also, my GF is a doctor and my housemates are all nurses so I am surrounded by NHS workers.

2) We do have lots of initiatives, there is are many big NHS campaigns out all the time and you can get rewards on some odf the campaigns. But they also get very involved in local communities as they have an obligation to do so.

3) Yeah that is sh!t isn't it. It even annoys me.

your comparing a whole band of countries with one, very amusing. So when the Asian union is formed, i can compare it to the EU?

Also by the way... if your wondering why some poor people can't get medicad it's because it doesn't cover all people under the definition of poor... which is people who made under a certain amount of money that year.

It doesn't cover people who have assets or other things that make them more "rich" then they look.

For example if you have a Plamsa TV, a nice car, and a sweet surround sound sytem yet are still considered poor money wise. You aren't going to get medicaid.

Why? Because you have a sweet TV a Nice car and a sweet surround sound system. You have a lot of assets you could sell for good value.

If you own a house worth more then $500,000. You don't qualify because you own a house worth a lot of money.

Stuff like that.

Not all poor are covered under Medicaid because they have a lot of assets.   Medicaid is there to help the suffering poor.  Not those who have a lot of stuff but just don't make a lot of money.

Like say college students.

Or old people... who may want to move into a nursing home and give away all their money to their kids who will look after them as if they had that money but it's just not in their name.

Still it is pretty unevenly run.

it appears you don't understand the US healthcare system.

If you are sick, and walk into a hospital, you will be treated. You do not have to pay. If you are poor, you can just not pay the bill. You don't go to jail, all it does is screw up your credit. But your poor, so why do you care about credit?

Right now, the way those people are payed for, is charging people with health insurance more money. My insurance goes up so the hospital can continue to treat those that they know will not pay.

If you think poor people in the US are without healthcare, your wrong. They are just without health insurance. It's against the law in this country for a hospital not to treat the sick.

So... pick another country, because the US does not fit your description.

Am I the only one who finds this strange? It used to be that you'd have one or two conservative posters defending themselves against a wave of liberal posters. But now...

It all depends how you see healthcare.

And what do you mean by it, Plastic Surgery, Weight Classes or Dancing Classes is not what should be available for everyone (for free,and what should taxpayers money be spent on)

the NHS is best, Healthcare is a Right, So everyone should get it for free, its not fair to make people pay, take debt or ruin credit ratings just to get by in good health

No.  I was trying to stay relativly on topic.  If you'd like to have this debate in another thread sure.

And yeah.  Universal healthcare does mean everyone gets it.  I do want that.  However I want to to be universaly paid for as well.

Also.  No i did not say poor people get healthcare.

I said "Our poorest civilians get healthcare."

Which they do.  So.... I wasn't wrong.

There is no way to say this so you will understand..

NOTHING IS FREE!!!!!!

It's not a question of free, it's just a question of who is going to pay for it.