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this is very old, i remember when this come out a long time ago, people were making fun at his dev experience, since guitar hero has the best graphics on the industry



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nen-suer said:
Then why cant we see games on xbox360 match the graphics of PS3 exclusives?

look like his opinions are for M$ to buy

 

Looks like your opinions wrong as well then, seeing as how you can't prove that any game on the PS3 has graphics better than the 360 (Give me numbers or give me silence)

Also, since when were graphics the definition of power? what's the point of amazing graphics if the CPU isn't able to produce decent AI (Note: Not accusing any PS3 or 360 game of this in particular, just stating how ridiculous that graphics is the benchmark of power).

Finally, does anyone really care about power given that the Wii is killing both of them in sales/profit?

NOTE: I'm not trying to rag on the PS3 here, personally, I think it's more powerful than the 360. But that's just it, I THINK that it is and that's all any one has in this forum, their own thoughts and opinions. Until we get a break down of FPS, polygons count or whatever stat that demonstrates graphical prowess or power, we can't say with certainty that one has better graphics than the other or is more powerful than the other in real world application. Also, I chuckle at the thought that graphics = power. Seriously, way to set a high benchmark for gaming companies next generation by letting them know that you don't care about advances in AI or gameplay, you just care about how big their GPU is. Nice.



Megadude said:
X-Bot's still digging in the crates for FUD from 2006-2007? Boy those were the days huh? As if anyone gies a shit what some prick who worked on rockband thinks. Rockband has some N64 looking graphics.

 

you tool!!! rockband has the best graphics for any rythm based games.  Their graphics are great (not amazing but still leagues bettter than guitar hero or anything like that)



MikeB said:
Ryudo said:
Why should this even matter?

Are people so vain these days to let something so stupid that matters not to a consumer to enjoy our games any less?

I think you should be more open minded. I fully respect and accept if people stick to preferring a PS2, Wii or a Snes. IMO nothing to be upset about, like you display here. Game consoles are luxury items. Why should someone for example become upset if a neighor buys a big 1080p HDTV, while you pick a small SDTV for your own reasons? (or vice versa) There are good reasons for picking both (having consumer choice is IMO good, so luckily the PS3 isn't much like a Wii), for example due to pricing or for example your VCR, Amiga 500 or Snes looking less nice upscaled compared to on an interlaced display.

More people may be visiting MacDonalds than people who are visiting top restaurants for a varierty of reasons, that does not mean MacDonalds should be the only option available to everyone.

PS3 developers still have a lot of headroom to achieve more, PS3 exclusives already are amongst the most beautiful and best sounding games available on the market (and this including PC games, as Windows gaming has become less relevant over the years).

People do care about specifications, lots of PC gamers upgraded their PCs over the decades, just to play Doom, Quake, Half-Life or whatever better than they did with their previous PC specs. Developers tapping more from the PS3's potential, will not require PS3 owners to upgrade.

 

stop with the pretencious sony PR BS and retarded  food comparisons..do you work for sony?  And we are talking about closed consoles here. As a consumer all we need to know is if the game is good.

PC gaming is not console gaming so what if it's more or less powerful nothing we can damn well do about it. So sit down shut up shell out your money and have fun playing.

Ever since the PS1/N64/Saturn era when 3D was advertised as the main focused it has been infused in our heads and since pushed as if it really matters to us when it doesn't and that sorta thinking has only gotten worse.  

 

I still play games on my NES Game gear Dreamcast and all my older consoles as well as new ones and still enjoy the games just as much. Not saying visuals don't matter as they do influence your gameplay experience but it was never how much power and number of poly's or sprites was used it was how they used what they had.....more more more does not really make things better.

It rarely does but has this massive misconception it does.

 



I have to agree with what he says,  GPU matters way over CPU as the GPU will most always be the limiting factor, any one that builds gamming PCS knows this, but the comment about PS3 exclusives sucking wasn't needed

 

In defense about how xbox 360 has to come out with a better looking game, who cares.  Not every dev wants to spend 5 years optimizing the crap out of a game to get it as good as possible



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starcraft said:
Garnett said:
How old is this?

Do we need MikeB or bmaker 11 to tell you other wise!

PS3 is 100x more powerful than 360!

For one horrible moment I thought you were serious.

Then I saw the last line.

 

Coming from the biggest Xbox advocate ever spawned, this doesn't hurt at all

 



I estimate the PS3 being 20% faster than the X360. It's not much to argue about.

Games on PS3 n X360 look rufly equal, and 20% is neglibile in the long run, since a console generation is 16 times the computing power of the former generation.
(double processing power each 18 months, in 6 years it becomes 1 x2x2x2x2= 16 times)



Until I actually see any plausible proof that the PS3 is more powerful then the 360 in any catogory including graphics, I will keep saying they are equal.

in b4 "hurrr xbox cant doz teh killzonezzzzz"

Killzone 2 is the best console graphics we've seen to date. For a very long time, Gears of War 1 held the crown. Does that mean for that entire time from when Gears was released to KZ the 360 was more powerful then the PS3?



GOTY Contestants this year: Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Tales of Graces f. Everything else can suck it.

Ryudo said:
MikeB said:
Ryudo said:
Why should this even matter?

Are people so vain these days to let something so stupid that matters not to a consumer to enjoy our games any less?

I think you should be more open minded. I fully respect and accept if people stick to preferring a PS2, Wii or a Snes. IMO nothing to be upset about, like you display here. Game consoles are luxury items. Why should someone for example become upset if a neighor buys a big 1080p HDTV, while you pick a small SDTV for your own reasons? (or vice versa) There are good reasons for picking both (having consumer choice is IMO good, so luckily the PS3 isn't much like a Wii), for example due to pricing or for example your VCR, Amiga 500 or Snes looking less nice upscaled compared to on an interlaced display.

More people may be visiting MacDonalds than people who are visiting top restaurants for a varierty of reasons, that does not mean MacDonalds should be the only option available to everyone.

PS3 developers still have a lot of headroom to achieve more, PS3 exclusives already are amongst the most beautiful and best sounding games available on the market (and this including PC games, as Windows gaming has become less relevant over the years).

People do care about specifications, lots of PC gamers upgraded their PCs over the decades, just to play Doom, Quake, Half-Life or whatever better than they did with their previous PC specs. Developers tapping more from the PS3's potential, will not require PS3 owners to upgrade.

 

stop with the pretencious sony PR BS and retarded  food comparisons..do you work for sony?  And we are talking about closed consoles here. As a consumer all we need to know is if the game is good.

PC gaming is not console gaming so what if it's more or less powerful nothing we can damn well do about it. So sit down shut up shell out your money and have fun playing.

Ever since the PS1/N64/Saturn era when 3D was advertised as the main focused it has been infused in our heads and since pushed as if it really matters to us when it doesn't and that sorta thinking has only gotten worse.  

 

I still play games on my NES Game gear Dreamcast and all my older consoles as well as new ones and still enjoy the games just as much. Not saying visuals don't matter as they do influence your gameplay experience but it was never how much power and number of poly's or sprites was used it was how they used what they had.....more more more does not really make things better.

It rarely does but has this massive misconception it does.

 

MadB, er... I mean MikeB is a funnny character.

As you've probably noticed by now he brings up thee amiga at the drop of a hat. He is something of an afficianado for it. Anyways he used to always pull up quotes from various sources that likened the Cell to the Amiga. I mean constantly. As far as I and a couple other people can tell, this is the reason why he bought a PS3 since he wasn't a console gamer before. Combine this with the fact that Microsoft played a not insignificant role in teh death of Amiga and I think you can get a grasp as to where this guy is comming from, as crazy as it sounds.

Oh, and he will always ignore any real valid point you make. See my posts above. Plus ignoring things when hes wrong, typing IMO, being 'polite' through passive-agres..... fuck it.

Living life vicariously through a piece a silicon and plastic is a sad, sad exsistence.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

Shadowblind said:

Until I actually see any plausible proof that the PS3 is more powerful then the 360 in any catogory including graphics, I will keep saying they are equal.

in b4 "hurrr xbox cant doz teh killzonezzzzz"

Killzone 2 is the best console graphics we've seen to date. For a very long time, Gears of War 1 held the crown. Does that mean for that entire time from when Gears was released to KZ the 360 was more powerful then the PS3?

 

Points of views can go both ways; I felt that when gears of war 1 came out that it was only on equal footing with the ps3 version of unreal tournament 3.  So when uncharted dropped  I was blown away by it and knew that it was much better looking than gears 1 (from a technical stand point and because it had more going on in the environment and better draw distance). Then when metal gear solid 4 came out I was again still not seeing anything beating either of these two games on the 360.  I obviously was shocked to see the significant leap in graphic fidelity between gears 1 to 2, so I immediately thought maybe there was more to the 360 than I first thought.  But all that came to a end and stopped me from buying the 360 when I saw and played killzone 2, so like your opinion is valued....so should someone else with a different opinion.