@Gamerace: I do largely agree, but Animal Crossing: Let's Go To The City have sold pretty well in relation to Animal Crossing: Wild World.

It's also getting insane play time from each player (over 60 hours a peice and rising by over four hours per month) according to the Nintendo Channel.

Noa is the key here. Worst company out there by far. Nintendo of Japan and most of the times NoE get the games. NoA barely publishes games anymore, and I've given you the proof.

I'm not mad at Nintendo, I'm mad at NOA, and don't expect big things at E3, because then after it finishes, I'll see you side by side with me ranting, although you will be the one pissed, I won't since I know 2009 will be more lackluster than 2008. If the rumoured Wii Fit plus is their big holiday hit, I guess it's game over for me.

No, I do not think that the Wii line up was a flop. Nintendo is carrying the flag for the Wii all by themselves. Therefore they had to release those games when they did. Now those teams are free to work on new IPs for the rest of this gen. The only problem that the Wii suffers from is the lack of 3rd party core games. This magnifies the lack of core games from Nintendo by a factor of 10. If third parties were doing for the Wii what they are doing for the Xbox 360 and the PS3 we would not care that Nintendo has not released a core game in a while. We'd be to busy discussing the core games developed by third parties. Hence the failure of third parties to capitalize on the success of the Wii.

Stop blaiming third parties all the time.

You will all admit that the core landscape is pretty bare on the Wii so any half decent core title released by a third party should do extremly well and still we have ahem sales from title like madworld.

Titles like Re1 or Motorstorm didn't sell 2 millions units on the PS3 because they were crazy good, they did because at the time there wasn't much competition on the console ( heck Haze sold 700k because the PS3 only had 2 shooters when it released) so users threw themselves at any half decent title that was released.

The lack of third parties core title on the Wii should help push like mad any core title that gets released, and it doesn't................

I do the same in that state, unfortunatley my threads never end to well.

I am sure you have witnessed some of them.

Thinking and whiskey never ends well next day when I check my posts.

You know, for years, it was the complete opposite: Europe never had any Chrono Trigger, Europe never had any Mario RPG, and the list goes on and on... and i don't even mention the sometimes incredible delays we had to endure...

The fact we've got Disaster, and America didn't? Yeah, i still don't get it...

I've played the game... i've bought it in 2nd hand, cos' i was too scared to buy it full price (because of the Nintendo attitude), and it was in fact an excellent surprise... but the way Nintendo managed the release: no release in America (and so no reviews on the US websites and no US press), no ads in Europe, nothing: it's just as they felt ashamed to release it, when there was actually no shame at all to have...

Why buy Monolith if you treat their games that way? Sure, Monolith is not an action dev, and maybe they should stick to what they do best, RPGs... but for a first try, Disaster was actually not a disaster at all...

Now, about the "lackluster" future of Wii... let's try to stay positive, ok? :)

Maybe i will be the one disappointed, maybe... but there are far more chances for you to be pleasantly surprised, we're talkin' about Nintendo here, and Nintendo has always been two-faced: you know it, i know it, any Nintendo lover out there knows it... they can the best and the worst company of this world at the same time, and that's why many fans are so happy and so upset at the same time...

That's a very typical All-Nintendo Lineup. Of course they have never been able to keep that up year after year.

@OP regarding your question: maybe you should ask your thumbs ;)

@Ail: Core audience actually plays games outside core games. That shouldn't surprise anyone. If there's lack of good core games, core gamers may be as likely to pick up a good new audience game as well as mediocre core game.

Resistance and Motorstorm sold largely because of being bundled. They were pretty much the only worthwile titles in the Starter Pack.

I would hardly say 2008 was a flop for Nintendo.

They released their fastest selling game of all time, Brawl. And then there's MKWii and Wii Fit, which I obviously don't need to elaborate on. And several other multi-million sellers and successful titles as well.