well, i just made the same post for the 8th or 9th time, this is really starting to frustrate me now

Me: I think X is X
Them: So you think X is Y and i have L and B to show that youre wrong!
Me: what? i said X is X
Them: No you didnt, you said B and L arent true, they are.
Me: I did and also, B and L either are completley unrelated or you have no reasoning behind them
Them: Crazy idiot, go away with your L and B hate and X denial!

I picked those jobs because they are the least desirable jobs I could think of in todays society.

So in your future society, there will be jobs we don't know about yet, but will be jobs people don't aspire to fill.

Who fills them, and how do they come to fill them? It's not a hard question.

wow, just wow, you just proved my point, you complety ignored my post

Technology is the answer for the 10th time, and for the 10th time, i know Utopia is not possible yet

So your claim, is in the future all jobs will be equally desirable because we have technology?

SciFiBoy, I doubt that most of the people here who disagree with you dislike your Utopia, exactly (even if maybe there's some disagreement on some small points)...

I think the main disagreement is on how you propose to achieve your dream world.  Do you want to do it by convincing other people to voluntarily do things a better way?

Or do you think that people need to be forced to act the right way, because Utopia is so important to achieve?

I'm all for "making the world a better place," and, like I say, I think most people here are too.  But the question of the "means" we use to achieve our "ends" is also vitally important to me.

im not proposing forcing anyone to act in a certain way, am i forcing them to help others via taxation, yes, but that seems fair enough to me, i feel taxation is neccesary as i dont trust rich people and private companies to pay for the education and healthcare of a poor person, so we should make sure that they can get there pay, but give up a fair percentage to help the less fortunate.

does that help?

Utopia is impossible. Humanity continually finds ways to separate itself into groups and judge others based on the perceptions of its peers. It's the very nature of our tribal heritage and will continue until the end of time. As one group of bad guys are considered acceptable (minorities, for example), another fills the gap to take its place (homosexuals). It's merely a continuation of when we roamed the earth in packs of 30 and hated everyone around us. You like what you know, you dislike what you don't because you don't fully understand it.

Today, janitors have shit jobs and Wall Street brokers treat them as a member of the sub-class every day. 100 years from now, a highly skilled machine technician will probably be viewed the same way by the guy who programs said machine. The job may have changed but the attitude (and roughly hewn class system) remains the same. Mix in culture, ethnicity, and background and you have a formula that will perpetuate until man inevitably destroys itself.

in a perfect world, yes, but as ive said (now 11 times or so) i know we are not in a perfect world

You realize that the people who run government share the same greedy, self-absorbed mentality of those evil businessmen you so deplore, right?

I'm fine with you if you're liberal and believe in socialism. I disagree, but that's your choice and your right. But the idea that people who serve in government are somehow more noble than their capitalistic brethren is folly.

well, i disagree, i think humanity can co-exist with each other, i dont hate any section of society or look down on people based upon there job, im sorry if you do.