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SciFiBoy said:

TheRealMafoo said:

SciFiBoy said:
i have a point Mafoo, you just refuse to see it, thats your loss

 

You have yet to explain it.

In every world, we need janitors and dish washers. Explain how someone comes to become one in your Utopian society.

 

sigh, thanks for proving my point

the answer is we have technology that can do there jobs, and that i know that Utopia is a dream for now, but will you read this post properly?

SciFiBoy, I doubt that most of the people here who disagree with you dislike your Utopia, exactly (even if maybe there's some disagreement on some small points)...

I think the main disagreement is on how you propose to achieve your dream world.  Do you want to do it by convincing other people to voluntarily do things a better way?

Or do you think that people need to be forced to act the right way, because Utopia is so important to achieve?

I'm all for "making the world a better place," and, like I say, I think most people here are too.  But the question of the "means" we use to achieve our "ends" is also vitally important to me.