Hes got you there.

PWNED

Obama FTW hes going to fix everything Bush fucked up over the last 8 years. Honestly the world would have been a better place if Americans didnt vote an Idiot in for two terms, I mean god damn do you know how much money was spent on the Iraq war every year? and people wonder how we got into a Recession. 

Thank God Im in Canada.....

Canadians Rule!

For the people saying it's hypocrisy for the US not to want North Korea, Iran, etc., from getting nuclear weapons...

What would you suggest?

The concern is that, if everyone gets the bomb, it greatly increases the chance that some nutjob or several will fire off a nuke.  (Maybe as an official governmental action, maybe through some terrorist/private front.)  Is your argument that the world would be a better place if every nation had the big red button?

By the way, outside of like North Korea, Iran, Vietnam and maybe Libya... what major country wants those countries to become nuclear powers?  I mean, everyone seems to be treating this as though it were the United States alone holding these "rogue" nations back... but isn't it actually a United Nations thing?  Aren't all of the major European and Asian powers, for instance, solidly on board with trying to keep the weapons cabinet locked?

Or have the UK, France, India, China, etc., all agreed to immediately disarm, just as soon as the US agrees to it, and I just haven't heard?

The Japanese were ready to surrender. The Americans wanted to scare Stalin by showing them the bomb. It cost tons of lives, and only made Stalin quickly get his own bombs.

Dude did you read the details of the plans for Japans defense?

Did you study read the details of the plans for the Japanese bombings.

I have.  So no... i'm not "buying into anything.

A US Invasion would of depopulated most of Japan as like the rest of WW2 they would of faught to the last soldier.  Any amount of research shows it was the most human option.

I do believe you owe me an apology.  Go over the plans.  Go over what would of happened and then maybe you'll be qualfied to argue it.

Has he now?

How many grandchildren do you think qualify?

Do some research.  There has been no scientific proof of mutations being abnormally high among people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.  In fact all the data has shown the opposite.

You have got to be kidding me. Obama has increased the war effort expanded spending to a level never before seen in the world, and done nothing to reverse the policies of Bush (other then a few things that any Democrat would have done).

Obama and Bush are very much alike, and the areas where they are alike, Obama is a lot worse.

So I take it that you guys are all for strict gun control laws if you think it is unwise to let certain countries have nuclear weapons.

There is only a small percentage of countries who currently have nukes, so I take you guys also believe that only a small percentage of people should be allowed to have guns.

And some of you guys misrepresent what I am saying.  I am not for the spread of nuclear weapons, and would encourage getting rid of many of the weapons that already exist.  But I do think America is full of shit when it tells other countries that we are responsible enough to have these weapons and you are not.

^^What he said.

I think there should be gun laws preventing the mentally unstable from owning guns. 

Does that count as strict?

Also can i get an apology for that "Crap they teach you in highschool" comment since you seem to be conceding the point and the point about nuclear mutations.