The PS3 userbase will be a lot bigger then 10mil in 09...
The PS3 userbase will be a lot bigger then 10mil in 09...
No game ever has more than 30% attach ratio, except maybe Halo, so it's ridiculous to say that FFXIII will get a 50% attach ratio. 5 million FFXII's on a 100 million userbase does not translate into 5 million FFXIII's on a 10 million userbase. Especially when FF love seems to be waning.


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PS3 should easily be over 10million by March 2008.


| BenKenobi88 said: No game ever has more than 30% attach ratio, except maybe Halo, so it's ridiculous to say that FFXIII will get a 50% attach ratio. 5 million FFXII's on a 100 million userbase does not translate into 5 million FFXIII's on a 10 million userbase. Especially when FF love seems to be waning. |
PS3 4.4mill
Resistance - 1.63
ohh looki 36% attach rate.
360 10.82
Gears 4.53
ohh noes 41.8% attach rate.
FF7 hit on around a 10 mill user base, its ridiculous that it sold 9.7 million.
I think we will keep finding out more at TGS this year.
| ssj12 said: PS3 should easily be over 10million by March 2008. |
Are you sure about that?
Realistically speaking, the PS3 will probably have sold somewhere between 5 Million and 5.5 Million by its first year aniversary (middle of November 2007), even if you assume amazing sales over the holiday season the PS3 will not break 8 Million consoles sold at the end of 2007; for your prediction to be true the PS3 would have to average at least 666,666 units per month in January through March 2008 to break 10 Million ...
Personally, I think a more realistic estimate would be 8.5 Million units sold by the end of March 2008
| BenKenobi88 said: No game ever has more than 30% attach ratio, except maybe Halo, so it's ridiculous to say that FFXIII will get a 50% attach ratio. 5 million FFXII's on a 100 million userbase does not translate into 5 million FFXIII's on a 10 million userbase. Especially when FF love seems to be waning. |
You should amend that to non-bundled games. Yet so far, Wii sports in Japan has a pretty high attach ratio.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
Yeah, so there's a few games...but I highly doubt this next FF will break 5 million, until much later in the PS3's life perhaps.


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| Hus said: lol PS3 4.4mill ohh looki 36% attach rate. 360 10.82 ohh noes 41.8% attach rate. FF7 hit on around a 10 mill user base, its ridiculous that it sold 9.7 million. |
Attach rates only really work after the console's life is effectively over.
Otherwise, the day after the PS3 launch, you could scream how RFOM had an 85% attach rate. Now it's at 36%. By the end of life, it will almost assuredly be at 10% or less. Even Gears, which has sold in much greater numbers than RFOM, will probably end up just over or under 10% attached, maybe close to 15% if it's lucky.
Edit: Ah, I see you were talking about FF selling 5m. Forget this post.

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| leo-j said: Its like people think that the ps3 will stay below 10 million in userbase when FF XIII is released. |
Even if it's say 20 million, how many copies of FFXIII do you think will be sold? It would have to have a 25% attach rate to even make it to 5 million and that would be even worse than FFIX. As far as I know, Final Fantasy VII had the highest attach rate ever for an RPG with 9.5%.
Do you really think they'll release it as an exclusive on a system where it'll have to have an unprecedented attach rate in order to have sales that are merely disappointing. If they allow a Final Fantasy game to sell below par when they could have avoided it, Square-Enix's executives will have to face a lot of angry shareholders.