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sethnintendo said:

@WereKitten, so they rank Nokia and Samsung high up because maybe they are trying to improve their cellphones by making them bio degradable when I am pretty sure they have yet to even release a bio degradable version. I think there are millions more tons of Nokia and Samsung products in landfills compared to Nintendo. Nintendo systems are hardly thrown away because even if it breaks the person could sell it online for discounted or send it to Nintendo or another repair shop.

Yeah!  No one throws a Nintendo product away!

I built a house out of GameCubes just recently, actually.  Awesome insulators, those suckers.  I hear NASA is using them for re-entry tile replacements as well!

Also, those other companies?  They are just talk.  Nintendo doesn't even need to talk, for you to know how much they <3 Earth.

 



 

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Kasz216 said:
spdk1 said:
you know if Greenpeace wouldn't try to kill inuit tribes trying to kill the one whale a year that they do, I might actually care what they say:

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/408.html

While horrible... I still think it's worse that they intentionally ram boats.

I mean... Greenpeace is basically people who grew up thinking poison Ivy had a point.

Horrible they intentionally ram boats?

You realise the boats they are ramming are illegally whaling in Australian waters?  All Australian waters are designated whale sanctuaries so its illegal to kill whales whether for meat or scientific purposes in those waters.

 



The reason this report doesn't hold much water for me, is not because it disrespected Nintendo (who is my father, not my mother, silly :P) but the manner in which it goes about reporting, which is to sensationalise.

Half the news articles on the internet about this topic state that "Nintendo is bad for the environment" and Greenpeace does nothing to correct this. The reality is that this is a failing on behalf of Nintendo's PR department and not necessarily their green standards. In essence, it's not that Nintendo is actually doing anything bad but that it doesn't measure up to Greenpeace's standards of disclosure.

Now i agree that Nintendo could easily pick up it's game in this regard, but in the end what is more important, that a company is actually green or that it's seen to be green? That is why i'd argue it more important for them to look at the products rather than green propaganda produced by the various PR departments.



@Sethnintendo

Please, re-read my previous post: they are ranking _policies_, not products.

Nintendo could have the most environment-friendly console now. Or maybe not. But the point is: what is Nintendo's policy about e-waste? When they produce their _next_ console, do they have internal guidelines for their designers? Do they submit their products to external parties for an independent control about the dangerous chemicals? Are they aiming for a certification about their power consumption?

The fact that we, here, today, say that there are "probably not many Nintendo consoles in the dumps" does not make a pubic statement of a policy for the general consumer.
The public statement of a policy is an agreement of a kind that regards the future. It's about commitment and communication.

Nintendo apparently didn't care enough about this request of commitment to communicate their plans. And Greenpeace is rating low this lack of communication.



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Kasz216 said:
spdk1 said:
you know if Greenpeace wouldn't try to kill inuit tribes trying to kill the one whale a year that they do, I might actually care what they say:

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/408.html

While horrible... I still think it's worse that they intentionally ram boats.

I mean... Greenpeace is basically people who grew up thinking poison Ivy had a point.

Horrible they intentionally ram boats?

You realise the boats they are ramming are illegally whaling in Australian waters?  All Australian waters are designated whale sanctuaries so its illegal to kill whales whether for meat or scientific purposes in those waters.

 

They are trying to save whales by attempting to kill people. 

People > Whales.

 



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Kasz216 said:

They are trying to save whales by attempting to kill people. 

People > Whales.

 

Oh, please. "Attempting to kill people"? Can I see a case of Greenpeace activists being charged with voluntary attempted murder in a court because of their anti-whaling boat manouvers?

And "People > Whales"? Is that even a concept?

 



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hsrob said:
The reason this report doesn't hold much water for me, is not because it disrespected Nintendo (who is my father, not my mother, silly :P) but the manner in which it goes about reporting, which is to sensationalise.

Half the news articles on the internet about this topic state that "Nintendo is bad for the environment" and Greenpeace does nothing to correct this. The reality is that this is a failing on behalf of Nintendo's PR department and not necessarily their green standards. In essence, it's not that Nintendo is actually doing anything bad but that it doesn't measure up to Greenpeace's standards of disclosure.

Now i agree that Nintendo could easily pick up it's game in this regard, but in the end what is more important, that a company is actually green or that it's seen to be green? That is why i'd argue it more important for them to look at the products rather than green propaganda produced by the various PR departments.

Agreed.  There are way too many large corporations making empty promises just to appear good to the public.  This results in many consumers buying products because they feel as though they're doing their part for the environment.  With that said, Greenpeace does a great deal in raising awareness for a lot of environmental concerns.  This wouldn't even be an issue if Nintendo would stop being stubborn.  

As for the whaling, I'm okay with tribes hunting for food (legally).  However, that JARPA/JARPN nonsense is a load of bull.  Go Sea Shepherd!   

 



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WereKitten said:
Kasz216 said:

They are trying to save whales by attempting to kill people. 

People > Whales.

 

Oh, please. "Attempting to kill people"? Can I see a case of Greenpeace activists being charged with voluntary attempted murder in a court because of their anti-whaling boat manouvers?

And "People > Whales"? Is that even a concept?

 

What would you call ramming a boat into another boat? 

Aslo... yeah it's a concept.  Human life is inherently more valuable then whale life.  Therefore risking a persons life to save a whales life is wrong.

 



^^I can't speak for Greenpeace because I don't know much about their anti-whaling practices, but the Sea Shepherd practices do not involve killing people.  

Assuming they are hurting people, what would you do to poachers then?  Allow them to continue what they're doing because their lives are more valuable?  They're hunting illegally.  



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@WereKitten, you are right since they are ranking policies. I don't know when the bad blood between Nintendo and Greenpeace happened but it seems that Nintendo doesn't care to share their policies with them (or barely share any information). Nintendo probably should be a little more open about their policies on reducing toxic chemicals, recycling, etc..