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emilie autumn said:
gog85 said:
the story in Wind Waker is this:
- Ganondorf is defeated and imprisoned in the evil realm (Ocarina of Time)
- Ganondorf somehow escapes from the realm and starts causing havoc once again.
- everyone waited for Link to return but he didn't (because Zelda sent him back in time at the end of OoT)
- because the Hero of Time hadn't returnd, the King flooded everything to seal Hyrule away from Ganondorf.

we should be playing as the same Link from Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass.

IMO they've finally found the NEW Hyrule they set out to find at the end of Wind Waker.

 

how the fuck did the king flooded hyrule, with buckets? from what i recall the goddeses flooded hyrule

 

Oh man, it's not even that witty or anything, but that had me LMAO for a while



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Abandone useless oceans for land? :3



Soriku said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
Link and Zelda probably found their new Hyrule. That was the whole point of being out in the ocean in the first place...

 

And abandoned the original Hyrule? :3


have you played the wind waker?, you haven't right or you just play games and read no dialogue, hyrule is underwater, dead, never to return, thats the beauty of the wind waker, finding a new hyrule, their hyrule, not the old one.



 

@emelie:

If by "accepted" you mean "accepted by GameTrailers.com staff". :P

It never made any sense. How did Hyrule come back from absolute destruction when there was only a single citizen left (Princess Zelda)?


And yeah, Eiji Anouma said that the Wind Waker takes place ~100 years after the adult Link ending of the Ocarina, but I don't believe him. :P



KylieDog said:
Lets not discuss the various timeline theories and which one is right or this thread will implode.


(I've always seen it as the adult world Link abandoned in OoT is the same timeline that WW/PH exists in)

It definitely is, they reference the Hero of Time and Link leaving and all that stuff many times, blatantly, in Wind Waker. If any Zelda's are on the same timeline, it's OoT/MM and then, way later, WW/PH and maybe Spirit Tracks.



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Soriku said:
emilie autumn said:
Soriku said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
Link and Zelda probably found their new Hyrule. That was the whole point of being out in the ocean in the first place...

 

And abandoned the original Hyrule? :3


have you played the wind waker?, you haven't right or you just play games and read no dialogue, hyrule is underwater, dead, never to return, thats the beauty of the wind waker, finding a new hyrule, their hyrule, not the old one.

 

Of course I did. It's my favorite Zelda >_> Maybe I should've said the Hyrule not underwater.

Still, abandon that? :3 But finding a new Hyrule would be weird...did the godesses not flood another part of Hyrule? And for what reason?

 

you mean the islands, let me remember well, there are only 2 islands were humans have succesfully established themselves: dragon root island and the island were link lives, that world must have a population of 30 people, they can live of fish their whole life can they and they have to fullfil th ekings dying wish of finding the new hyrule.

 

it is never stated if the goddeses just flooded hyrule or if they also flooded the rest of the world, but it was inecesary to flood the whole world as the reason of flooding hyrule was to stop ganon and drow him with hyrule, so theres no need to flood the whole world



 

Soriku said:

If they flooded the whole world, this new Hyrule would have the ocean as well.

Maybe ST is in another Zelda timeline...

Yeah, but they DO leave to find a new Hyrule at the end of WW, and it's what they're doing at the beginning of PH. So presumably there's one out there.



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Or maybe they actually found a big enough island to land on and get off the boat.

 

 

WHAT A PLOT TWIST!



makingmusic476 said:

@emelie:

If by "accepted" you mean "accepted by GameTrailers.com staff". :P

It never made any sense. How did Hyrule come back from absolute destruction when there was only a single citizen left (Princess Zelda)?


And yeah, Eiji Anouma said that the Wind Waker takes place ~100 years after the adult Link ending of the Ocarina, but I don't believe him. :P

 

oh you didn't, i didn't want to do this, but you've pushed me, is time for zelda history lesson:

the minish cap is the first, theres no legend of the great hero, theres no conncection between the 3 chosen by the triforce, anything, just the story of the master sword. ocarina of time follows theres still no reference to the legendary hero, but the master sword exists, this is were the bond between ganon, zelda and link is formed and the 3 will battle in repeating loops. here is were the time line gets interesting, first kid timeline

kid timeline: link goes to zelda, tells her of her plans and ganon is imprisoned, so zelda hands down the ocarina to link and he sets to find his lost friend. now majoras mask(the greatest game ever) here links adventures through termina and his final fate is unkwon, hough we see him venture through the lost woods at the end of the game, so it is plausible he returned to hyrule. then the original legend of zelda, the hero returns to face ganon and once again rescue princess zelda, this one is easiy placed here. links adventure, zelda is asleep as a new hero hasn't returned, link appears and fights his own evil encarnation. triforce of the gods(or the horrible translation "a link to the past") many references are made to a man of great evil who wanted the triforce and then was imprisoned in the golden land, zelda, link and ganon appear again as the 3 chosen by the triforce, the master sword is also present. links awakening is a direct sequel so no question there. the next 2 games are the tricky ones and are only placed here as tehy have no other place in the timeline

 

adult timeline: ganon fucked hyrule up, he was banished by zelda and then as we can see in twilight princess stabbed by the sages(eventhough he manages to kill 2 of em) and banish to the dark realm. hundreds of years later twilight princess happens, hyrule is rebuilt, probably by zelda and the people of kakariko village, link, zelda and ganon are once again those chosen by the triforce, many references are made to the hero of ocarina of time, specially the one who teaches you the special skills, ganon is defeated again. the time that passes is unkwon, but ganon returned and link didn't, so the goddeses knowing ganon would fuck the world up, flooded hyrule preventing ganon from destroying everything. then win waker, link is back, once again, he zelda and ganon are the ones chosen by the triforce, many references are made to the legendary hero, wether this is the hero of twilight princess or teh one of ocarina of time is unkwon and irrelevant as it still places this in the adult timeline. phantom hourglass is a direct sequel. the oracle is only placed here cause it doesn't fit anywhere else



 

Hyrule is a kingdom though, not the whole world
I mean what about Koholint, Holodrum, and Labrynna? Hyrule's probably not that big on a global scale.



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