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nintendo_fanboy on 30 March 2009
Zlejedi said:
RolStoppable said:
Zlejedi said:
mike_intellivision said:
This is why Rol is unstoppable!

For those who do not understand, people have to defend every time a Wii game does not sell -- but the same is not said for PS3 and Xbox 360 releases.

Mike from Morgantown

Maybe that's becouse Wii fanatics like to wave the flag that it outsells PS3 and X360 combined and whenever third party developer release annual results all those Wii fanatics are always crying they lose money becouse they release on HD systems.

But somehow when a game comparable to what is available on HD consoles comes and all dust settles on the sales it fails to reach any serious numbers unless it is collection of minigames or music game.

If Wii is so amazing 3rd party core game platform then why has CoD 5 WaW sold 3 times less than PS3 version - platform with less than half userbase.

That's easy to explain. The demographics who are interested in FPS games are much more concentrated on the PS3 than on the Wii. This also allowed CoD4 on the PS3 to outsell the bestselling FPS on the PS2 despite an even huger disparity in userbase than PS3 vs. Wii. Now would you doubt that the PS2 was a good platform for third party core games because of this?

Ok so let's ignore COD now let's look at the list - let's remove minigames and casual stuff getting to core games what we see highest is Resident Evil 4 at 1.84M - hardly what one would call amazing third party sales.

The point is Wii can sell tons of minigames, music stuff etc but it cannot sell hardcore game genres better than PS3 or X360 becouse it has much diffrent structure of userbase.

 

You are funny. Resident Evil 4 is the second port of the same game within a few years, and the original can be played on the same console as the port. The game sells 1.84M nonetheless and you call this "hardly amazing"? This is beyond amazing actually, especially considering that it outsold the original version.

And it is one way to look at the sales charts and saying that there isn't anything that sold good, but might I ask, what should have sold good in your opinion? There is no first-tier third party attempt that sold lower than the expectations were, if you ask me.

 



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sly777 on 30 March 2009
Lostplanet22 said:
Don't trust people with Kim Possible avatars!

 

Yeah... That guy has nothing to do with his life...



lolita on 30 March 2009

Rol you're so full of awesome that this thread is always highlighted in red for me... Or it might just be a website bug.



Ail on 30 March 2009
bdbdbd said:
@Zledeji: Wii isn't the only one suffering the same problems. Removing shooters and all the casual stuff like sports games, there isn't many high selling hardcore games on the platforms.

The point is, that PS360 can sell shooters and sports games, but they can't sell hardcore games due to different structure of userbase.

Seems to me there are actually quite a few titles on HD consoles that don't fall under casual or shooters/sports and sold over 2 million copies....

 

GTA4 : 6.93 + 5.51 = 12.44

Assassin's Creed : 4.47 + 3.34 = 7.81

GH3 : 4.14 +1.83 = 5.97

MGS4 : 3.89

Oblivion : 2.65 + 0.78 = 3.44

Fable 2 : 2.65 

Marvel Ultimate Alliance : 2.45

GH2 : 2.44

Rock Band : 2.29 + ?? ( can't find PS3 numbers)

Fallout 3 : 2.24 + 1.35 = 3.59

Uncharted : 2.32

Mass Effect : 2.02

Star Wars the Force Unleashed : 1.65 + 1.14 = 2.79

Rock band 2 : 1.54 +  0.56 = 2.10

Re5 : 1.14 + 1.32 = 2.46

DMC4  : 1.11 + 1.26 = 2.40

Soul Calibur 4 : 1.14 + 0.97 = 2.11

LBP : 2.11 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Final-Fan on 30 March 2009

Why don't you consider Rock Band and Guitar Hero casual?



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NJ5 on 30 March 2009
Final-Fan said:
Why don't you consider Rock Band and Guitar Hero casual?

Or GTA4 for that matter...

 



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Final-Fan on 30 March 2009

I was going to say that too but it might be more arguable, so I left it out (cuz I'm lazy).



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outlawauron on 30 March 2009
NJ5 said:
Final-Fan said:
Why don't you consider Rock Band and Guitar Hero casual?

Or GTA4 for that matter...

You could also argue Mass Effect, Uncharted, and MGS 4 as shooters.



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outlawauron on 30 March 2009
bdbdbd said:
@Coolguy: Except that 3rd party games sell better on Wii than on the other two.

Multiplatform games across the board, I think it's pretty equal.

@ noname

Seriously? What are the 20 games better than NMH in 2008 on Wii? I'd like to know, because I can't see how.



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Dazkarieh on 30 March 2009
outlawauron said:
bdbdbd said:
@Coolguy: Except that 3rd party games sell better on Wii than on the other two.

Multiplatform games across the board, I think it's pretty equal.

@ noname

Seriously? What are the 20 games better than NMH in 2008 on Wii? I'd like to know, because I can't see how.

 

Now it's correct...

NMH is in my top 1 of 2008... any platform (I have the 5 of them).