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ithis on 27 March 2009
Khuutra said:
ithis said:

Well, I would like to see a source for that?

Plus, I don't know how you can be sure. 

Cause it don't seam like it from the games that sell. I mean, if true, and say half of them are male, and say 10 percent of those males behave like males normaly would and want blood and gore, that sould mean 2.4 million potential violent game buyers for the Wii. I don't see that in the numbers. Do you?

Don't pigeonhole buying demographics into cliches and blurbs, you will not be able to predict anything.

Let's see here.... this one's just about Japan, but I'll try to find more:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/japan/article2629649.ece

Whoop! Found it!

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/153048/nintendo-average-age-of-wii-player-is-29-years-old/

I was off by a couple of years though. D'oh!

Aha, so the majority of Wii gamers in Japan are females between the ages of 40 and 62. I told you this will save the gaming industry from censorship.

Second link is a title, nothing more. It's like Sony saying that they have 20+ million PSN accounts without any further explanation. It's not exactly true.

 



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Orca_Azure on 27 March 2009

Just because madworld is a mature game doesn't make it a good game. I don't like the game, but my reasons rest with the length and lack of color. I wanted it to succeed but some games just don't



Khuutra on 27 March 2009
ithis said:
Khuutra said:

Don't pigeonhole buying demographics into cliches and blurbs, you will not be able to predict anything.

Let's see here.... this one's just about Japan, but I'll try to find more:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/japan/article2629649.ece

Whoop! Found it!

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/153048/nintendo-average-age-of-wii-player-is-29-years-old/

I was off by a couple of years though. D'oh!

Aha, so the majority of Wii gamers in Japan are females between the ages of 40 and 62. I told you this will save the gaming idustry from censoship.

Second link is a title, nothing more. It's like Sony sayind that they have 20+ million PSN accounts without any explanation.

Don't be obtuse, it is saying that they make up a significant demographic, which brings up the average age.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/140575/average_wii_player_is_age_29_nintendo_says.html

http://wii.qj.net/Average-age-of-Wii-owners-is-29-says-Fils-Aime/pg/49/aid/109854

When you say that the average age of your players is 29, the language there is very specific. There is no room for ambiguity. This is not buyers. It is players.



ithis on 27 March 2009
Khuutra said:
ithis said:
Khuutra said:

Don't pigeonhole buying demographics into cliches and blurbs, you will not be able to predict anything.

Let's see here.... this one's just about Japan, but I'll try to find more:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/japan/article2629649.ece

Whoop! Found it!

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/153048/nintendo-average-age-of-wii-player-is-29-years-old/

I was off by a couple of years though. D'oh!

Aha, so the majority of Wii gamers in Japan are females between the ages of 40 and 62. I told you this will save the gaming idustry from censoship.

Second link is a title, nothing more. It's like Sony sayind that they have 20+ million PSN accounts without any explanation.

Don't be obtuse, it is saying that they make up a significant demographic, which brings up the average age.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/140575/average_wii_player_is_age_29_nintendo_says.html

http://wii.qj.net/Average-age-of-Wii-owners-is-29-says-Fils-Aime/pg/49/aid/109854

When you say that the average age of your players is 29, the language there is very specific. There is no room for ambiguity. This is not buyers. It is players.

I know, can't you spot attempt at humor? It does say that most of you are women though.

 

Thank you for the next two links. First one, same Title news, different site. Says "average Wii player is 29".

Second comes to save the day. Says "Average Wii owner is 29". And gives a name to the quote. So, which is it, since it's clear that it's the same news/story, but different interpretation. And if it's the average Wii owner number, that I'm right :P.

 



Majin-Tenshinhan on 27 March 2009
ithis said:
Khuutra said:
ithis said:
Khuutra said:

Don't pigeonhole buying demographics into cliches and blurbs, you will not be able to predict anything.

Let's see here.... this one's just about Japan, but I'll try to find more:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/japan/article2629649.ece

Whoop! Found it!

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/153048/nintendo-average-age-of-wii-player-is-29-years-old/

I was off by a couple of years though. D'oh!

Aha, so the majority of Wii gamers in Japan are females between the ages of 40 and 62. I told you this will save the gaming idustry from censoship.

Second link is a title, nothing more. It's like Sony sayind that they have 20+ million PSN accounts without any explanation.

Don't be obtuse, it is saying that they make up a significant demographic, which brings up the average age.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/140575/average_wii_player_is_age_29_nintendo_says.html

http://wii.qj.net/Average-age-of-Wii-owners-is-29-says-Fils-Aime/pg/49/aid/109854

When you say that the average age of your players is 29, the language there is very specific. There is no room for ambiguity. This is not buyers. It is players.

I know, can't you spot attempt at humor? It does say that most of you are women though.

 

Thank you for the next two links. First one, same Title news, different site. Says "average Wii player is 29".

Second comes to save the day. Says "Average Wii owner is 29". And gives a name to the quote. So, which is it, since it's clear that it's the same news/story, but different interpretation. And if it's the average Wii owner number, that I'm right :P.

 

 

 

Except that it makes no sense in the context.

"Contrary to popular belief, according to the man of kicking ass and taking names, the average age of Nintendo Wii owners is not below 13 or above 60. In a conference call, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime said Wii owners are still mostly core gamers."

That would make no sense whatsoever, and wouldn't prove anything, if these owners were just people who were buying Wiis for their kids. Nice try, though.



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mrstickball on 27 March 2009

Why is it that every time a quality game comes to the Wii, and sells



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Khuutra on 27 March 2009
ithis said:
Khuutra said:

Don't be obtuse, it is saying that they make up a significant demographic, which brings up the average age.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/140575/average_wii_player_is_age_29_nintendo_says.html

http://wii.qj.net/Average-age-of-Wii-owners-is-29-says-Fils-Aime/pg/49/aid/109854

When you say that the average age of your players is 29, the language there is very specific. There is no room for ambiguity. This is not buyers. It is players.

I know, can't you spot attempt at humor? It does say that most of you are women though.

 

Thank you for the next two links. First one, same Title news, different site. Says "average Wii player is 29".

Second comes to save the day. Says "Average Wii owner is 29". And gives a name to the quote. So, which is it, since it's clear that it's the same news/story, but different interpretation. And if it's the average Wii owner number, that I'm right :P.

Oh, Mary, why.

"Most of you"? Do you think that Wii owners are somehow apart from you? You do realize I own a 360 too, right? And I'm going to own a PS3 as soon as I can afford it? Don't subscribe to the "us vs. them" mentality, it doesn't facilitate communications and obscures any point you're trying to make.

Secondly, no, you owuldn't be right even then, since your original point was about "buyers". The fact that Wii Fit has more than halfway kept pace with the system itself since launching is testament to the fact that the older demographic on this thing is gigantic.

Thirdly, the language in the second one is potentially ambiguous, yes, but only in between "owners" and "players", not "owners" and "buyers". More than that, it's not actually being carried by a news site - don't just look at the headline. The first two articles I posted were from a press release that Nintendo put out, so, you know! There you go.



Demotruk on 27 March 2009

I was saying it was niche and wouldn't sell long before it came out. In fact, if you look at the old threads predicting MadWorld sales alot of Wii owners were saying it wouldn't sell much more than NMH.



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Khuutra on 27 March 2009
mrstickball said:
Why is it that every time a quality game comes to the Wii, and sells <500,000 we get the Wii Defense Force giving us a course in apologetics on why it's really not a big deal? Its like the Wii is some sort of godsend console that we are not allowed to say 'hey, this game bombed' - in fact, I'd really like to hear it from a Wii fan: What Wii games have bombed? I don't think I've seen a Wii owner fess up to it before.

Maybe it's because I like to look at larger numbers, but I was inundated with Madworld ads where I live. I may have seen 2 dozen on major man-centric channels. Even then, I thought the ads were done quite well.

Not only this, MadWorld has a very good score - both for the Wii, and in the overall Wii library, as it sits as the 19th best Wii game all-time, and 2nd best for 2009. So there should be some precedent that says 'this game should do well'

Now, having said that, it's too early to make a judgment on where it'll go. It may have great legs, it may not. I am not basing the aforementioned argument on MadWorlds current performance. If it does end up selling <500,000 in a year, I will consider it a bomb, as it had a good marketing campaign behind it, and looks to be one of the games that cost a bit more than typical Wii games, thus offsetting the 'It's on Wii! It magically costs $5 to make!' argument.

Mrstickball do you want me to jump on you too because I will do it, my post will just end up being very, very, very long.



SuperDave on 27 March 2009

It's too bad the game doesn't appear to be selling much, but that doesn't take away from my enjoyment at least.



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