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As a little side note, I know a few gays and bisexuals, and most I have no problem with. Why? Because they don't go around flashing it at everyone, and if you have a conversation with them you really can't tell that they are gay.

However, there are those who are openly gay and actually quite annoying because they go around saying gay is ok and try to make everything they look at and touch gay. I have a feeling this Microsoft fellow was more like this and is why he was treated harshly by his employees.

I just wanted to make it clear that I do not hate gay people, I may think it's wrong and problem causing, but as long as they keep their PERSONAL life PERSONAL, it's fine by me.



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Tyrannical said:
Ya know, most forms of homosexuality are probably curable with the proper hormone treatments if you catch it before puberty. I'm sure it's just a chemical imbalance in the brain that causes it.

We treat so many other mental illnesses, why do we ignore this one?

Because people object to it and bring up all kinds of moral debates that get no where.

If people didn't have morals the world would be so much more advance

 



Username2324 said:

They are gay, so they are treated as being gay, not as second class citizens. And that second bolded part is an opinion. They hurt people morally and mentally, and sometimes physically.

This planet is going out of control.... Soon beastiality will be legal, and we'll see people walking around holding hands with chimps....

 

 Saying they shouldn't or can't do this or that is treating them like second class citizens. Just replace the world gay with black in many of these suggestions and you will see what I mean. Also, no one else can damage your morals. Only you can damage your morals. So long as there are primitive tribes where women have their clitoris scraped off the issue of gay sex won't even pop up in the morals of the entire planet. Feel free to point me to where the gays meet up to go round up breeders and drag them behind a truck though. Physical harm is a new one by me.

Ya know, most forms of homosexuality are probably curable with the proper hormone treatments if you catch it before puberty. I'm sure it's just a chemical imbalance in the brain that causes it.

We treat so many other mental illnesses, why do we ignore this one?

 Because it is not a mental illness. You are free to disagree of course, but you would be wrong. The APA put a lot of thought into the decision to knock it out of the DSM, and its not coming back. When the greatest minds in the field think its not a mental illness then you probably should reconsider your stance on it.



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Username2324 said:

Because people object to it and bring up all kinds of moral debates that get no where.

If people didn't have morals the world would be so much more advance

 

 Wait what? Well I guess its not like you claimed gays were hurting people morally like it was a bad thing in this thread. Oh wait that quote is right here:And [the hurtiing people] part is an opinion. They hurt people morally and mentally, and sometimes physically.



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Gnizmo said:

Username2324 said:

They are gay, so they are treated as being gay, not as second class citizens. And that second bolded part is an opinion. They hurt people morally and mentally, and sometimes physically.

This planet is going out of control.... Soon beastiality will be legal, and we'll see people walking around holding hands with chimps....

 

 Saying they shouldn't or can't do this or that is treating them like second class citizens. Just replace the world gay with black in many of these suggestions and you will see what I mean. Also, no one else can damage your morals. Only you can damage your morals. So long as there are primitive tribes where women have their clitoris scraped off the issue of gay sex won't even pop up in the morals of the entire planet. Feel free to point me to where the gays meet up to go round up breeders and drag them behind a truck though. Physical harm is a new one by me.

Ya know, most forms of homosexuality are probably curable with the proper hormone treatments if you catch it before puberty. I'm sure it's just a chemical imbalance in the brain that causes it.

We treat so many other mental illnesses, why do we ignore this one?

 Because it is not a mental illness. You are free to disagree of course, but you would be wrong. The APA put a lot of thought into the decision to knock it out of the DSM, and its not coming back. When the greatest minds in the field think its not a mental illness then you probably should reconsider your stance on it.

No it was put there because if they said it was a mental illness they'd have to deal with all kinds of bullshit. And that is the problem with politicans these days. They aren't willing to put up with bullshit from topics involving peoples morals so they either do what the small complaining group wants because the rest of us just live our lives, or they don't do anything to avoid it all together.

Like I said, it's the little angry groups that make the changes while most just try to ignore it. But eventually we'll find ourselves living in a world far different than what we would like and at the point it will have been too late.

And again, if you want to be gay that's fine, but there is no reason why you can't go about life as normally as anyone else, keep your personal life to yourself, it's really not that difficult.

And now, I am officially leaving this topic as it is quite pointless.

 



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Well actually, just as a last thought (kind of like I've been trying to say) if gays don't wanted to be treated differently they need to stop drawing attention to themselves as being different. I don't care where you stick your dick, that's your business not mine, but don't go marching out into the streets telling me what you want to do with it openly. You want to have your pleasure come from a rubber penis shaped object, that's fantastic, but don't go into a business demanding fair but different treatment because of it.



Username2324 said:

No it was put there because if they said it was a mental illness they'd have to deal with all kinds of bullshit. And that is the problem with politicans these days. They aren't willing to put up with bullshit from topics involving peoples morals so they either do what the small complaining group wants because the rest of us just live our lives, or they don't do anything to avoid it all together.

Like I said, it's the little angry groups that make the changes while most just try to ignore it. But eventually we'll find ourselves living in a world far different than what we would like and at the point it will have been too late.

And again, if you want to be gay that's fine, but there is no reason why you can't go about life as normally as anyone else, keep your personal life to yourself, it's really not that difficult.

And now, I am officially leaving this topic as it is quite pointless.

 

 Swing and a miss. Up until the DSMIV there was a diagnosis for gay as a mental disorder. it was not political pressure as the Americian Psychiatric Association is not a government agency. That would be the NIMH. The members of the APA found that based on research it was not acutally a mental illness at all. Science is a bitch that way.

 Keeping the fact that you are gay to yourself is not such a black and white issue. That means no public displays of affection with their partners. This is an extra set of rules enforced only on them. That mkes them a second class citizen. Having seperate sets of laws for a specific group is never a good idea. It just leads to mass riots against an obvious injustice.



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If Microsoft discriminated against him then I hope he wins. Sexuality is a non-issue to me. Why should I care if someone is attracted to the same sex? They're all still people. Its ridiculous that people still object to it in this day and age. It doesn't hurt you so why do you care?



The only reason homosexuality isn't STILL considered a form of mental illness is because it upsets gay people.

I'm sure the cure isn't much more complicated then the hormonal treatments they give someone who wants a sex change. We just need to examine the chemical and hormonal differences between the brain of a gay man and a heterosexual and treat it accordingly. In the end, I'm sure it can be treated just like any other form of mental illness.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
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Gnizmo said:

Username2324 said:

No it was put there because if they said it was a mental illness they'd have to deal with all kinds of bullshit. And that is the problem with politicans these days. They aren't willing to put up with bullshit from topics involving peoples morals so they either do what the small complaining group wants because the rest of us just live our lives, or they don't do anything to avoid it all together.

Like I said, it's the little angry groups that make the changes while most just try to ignore it. But eventually we'll find ourselves living in a world far different than what we would like and at the point it will have been too late.

And again, if you want to be gay that's fine, but there is no reason why you can't go about life as normally as anyone else, keep your personal life to yourself, it's really not that difficult.

And now, I am officially leaving this topic as it is quite pointless.

 

 Swing and a miss. Up until the DSMIV there was a diagnosis for gay as a mental disorder. it was not political pressure as the Americian Psychiatric Association is not a government agency. That would be the NIMH. The members of the APA found that based on research it was not acutally a mental illness at all. Science is a bitch that way.

 Keeping the fact that you are gay to yourself is not such a black and white issue. That means no public displays of affection with their partners. This is an extra set of rules enforced only on them. That mkes them a second class citizen. Having seperate sets of laws for a specific group is never a good idea. It just leads to mass riots against an obvious injustice.

Surely there is something that disturbs you, or would you be ok with seeing a person makeout with a cow at the mall?