the problem with having the "free market" dictate everything is that we place value on the stupidest things sometimes.

Teachers and Policemen and Firemen don't get paid what they're worth, but we have Ms. Spears shaving her head and flashing her junk and she's probably worth more than all of us here on VGC combined!

I know, i know, you don't have to "CHOOSE" to be a teacher and you can go do something else and make a lot more money; however the problem is that all the good people who otherwise would have been teachers go do something else that is less productive but they get like 10x the money.

She's blown way more then just money! :)

There is a way to fix that. If schools were not government run, and they had to compete for your children, schools would want the best teachers, and would be willing to pay for them.

Teachers don't get paid well because there profession is not in a free market. Not the other way around.

This is a public service announcement courtesy of Snesboy:

SciFiBoy is the weirdest liberal you will ever meet. I couldn't even says he's liberal because he's too liberal even for them. What does that make him? I am to lazy to look it up right because I am thinking about my friend Chelsea and it's 3AM on the east coast right now. So anyways, there you have it. SciFiBoy is a fucked up liberal and I respect him for that.

Here's to you PS360FTW!

Note: This was typed with sincerity in tone, not sarcasm.

being married to one i know you sir are quite wrong

if it was a free market the whole system would colapse if only b/c no one would keep special ed kids b/c they are a drain on teh numbers

if school a has an avrage test score range of 4.9 out of five (with out special ed kids) and school b (full of special ed kids) only can pull 1.3 out of 5

where do you think people are going to want to send their kids and thus the money

In my State, we collect 20k a year per child for school. I think the best way to spend that, is to give the parents a voucher, worth nothing to them, but 20k to an accredited institution. Wherever you take your child, you hand them a piece of paper worth 20 grand. Ask your spouse if they get 20 grand per student.

With this system, schools will have to compete for your dollars. The schools who want your Special Ed dollars, will cater to people with special needs kids.

You could be a top notch special ed teacher, and if you bring your school 10 kids, you just made that school 200k. It would be easy to pay you 75k of it.

it dosnt work that simple

in a district some schools might only have 50 special ed kids

so your telling me that its okay for students to travel 50 plus miles every day to go to school

not to mentio nprivate business has teh right to refuse the student then

so if a school dosent want two special ed kids b/c it mean they wont get 10 general ed kids now what?

that the probem you run into now with private schools they refuse any child admission that might be a spot on their record or brign the gps down or cause trouble--and they legaly can since they are private and you want to turn the whole system to that..bahhh

this is so childish.
Mafoo, just drop it. Not everyone has the same opportunities that you have. Not everyone was created equal and so we have government and taxes and all this stuff to make sure we all have a fighting chance.
Yes, it sucks that for you, you were blessed with motivation and skill and intelligence to the extent that you didn't need any help and so when other people are helped at your expense you get mad. What doesn't suck for you is that you have more than most people.


so really come off it.
PS: what are you so mad about? Don't you like your job? Is it that much of a hassle to work? Otherwise you shouldn't be complaining about it. I work and have school and a girlfriend and I rarely have time to myself to play video-games. I don't complain. It seems like its only people with more money than they know what to do with that get all fussy.

^ Well some people have stronger desire. Look at nymphomaniacs. Say someone's a money-philiac -- he needs his fix!