I think that the Zelda series has had the best soundtracks in videogaming history. (that was what you meant right?)

I think the towns in TP felt lifeless because EVERYBODY DIED. The town was SUPPOSED to be lifeless, that's really all there is too it. I don't know why people don't get it.

GranTurismo said: The series lacks something, it can't stand with the big boys of gaming, the sound stands no chance with games like FF, it lacks the graphics, it lacks replay value, and the fact that they have no voice's for the people is a major downfall. They need to totally re-invent this series to save it. Make it darker and more of a dark story to it, toss in a adult link and just get rid of the whole kiddy feel of it. Of course this is just what i feel about the series and some of you may feel that they should go back to the GC style one they had. This is not a flame on the series i just want something more from it.

Have you actually played a Zelda game...?

 

claude, even in castle town when its full of people?

GranTurismo said: The series lacks something, it can't stand with the big boys of gaming, the sound stands no chance with games like FF, it lacks the graphics, it lacks replay value, and the fact that they have no voice's for the people is a major downfall. They need to totally re-invent this series to save it. Make it darker and more of a dark story to it, toss in a adult link and just get rid of the whole kiddy feel of it. Of course this is just what i feel about the series and some of you may feel that they should go back to the GC style one they had. This is not a flame on the series i just want something more from it.

I agree with you that the series has gone old a little, altough the games are still great as hell.

However, changing it like you proposed would make Zelda a 08/15 action game, and this is not what the majority wants.

stof said: Could it be possible that the reason was that they just hit the wall on the Gamecube's disk storage space? The game was developed for the Gamecube with only the control changed for Wii. The smaller disk theory would also explain why the music was still midi and there was no voice acting. It's just a thought, but it sounds reasonable to me

 

Stof pretty much nailed it here. The 1,5GB of storage wasn´t enough for a bigger game. Remember how Koji Kondo said he was allowed to bring orchastrated music to the game?

 Well, he wasn´t allowed later the disc was just too small. Same goes for voice acting. 

Gamecube discs are very small compared to PS2 and Xbox discs (1,47GB vs. 4,8 GB I think.)

 

And that´s the reason why so many things were missing in the game. 

 

As much as I love zelda, Im going to have to agree with grantourismo that the serious needs a big change much like mario galaxy and resident evil 4.

Twilight princess is basically the 4th 3d zelda and hasnt really changed all that much from ocarina.

Phantom hourglass looks awesome tho :)

GranTurismo said: the sound stands no chance with games like FF

Like when you compare FFVII's to Ocarina's. Yeah!

And I don't think Zelda is going downhill, every game has been good. But I won't complain if they radically change the formula next game.

Now, Final Fantasy on the other side... heh. 

ClaudeLv250 said: GranTurismo said: The series lacks something, it can't stand with the big boys of gaming, the sound stands no chance with games like FF, it lacks the graphics, it lacks replay value, and the fact that they have no voice's for the people is a major downfall. They need to totally re-invent this series to save it. Make it darker and more of a dark story to it, toss in a adult link and just get rid of the whole kiddy feel of it. Of course this is just what i feel about the series and some of you may feel that they should go back to the GC style one they had. This is not a flame on the series i just want something more from it. Have you actually played a Zelda game...?

Yeah, I'm wondering that myself.  The artwork and character design in LoZ is some of the best in industry, if not the best.  While FF has some amazing music, LoZ is no push over.  There were some great songs in TP.  The comment really made me feel like I was looking at a typical antiNinty fanboy when he said they needed to make it darker and less kiddy.  Have you even played TP!?  The world is freaking consumed by Twilight and both Princesses are in some major trouble.  What more do you want in terms of darkness?  I mean, I guess they could have done night instead of twilight, but that seems a bit too cliche for me.  I'm sorry Zelda doesn't feature blood spewing everywhere and a typical antihero, but that's just not what the series is about.

 

yeah right make it more emo. that should do the trick.

Zelda is still owning the way it is.