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TheRealMafoo on 26 March 2009
Final-Fan said:

"The military does plenty of great things, but they are people like anyone else. I think it is very noble to fight for your country, but I also think that fighting is rarely the best solution. Like I said, I have nothing personal against the military, and I think it is a noble cause, but not everyone in the military is an honest person, just like how not everyone on the street is an honest person."

"People are people. Whatever they are doing they aren't perfect. That doesn't mean they are bad people, it just means that I don't give people in any walk of life unconditional praise. Politicians are dishonest, poor people are dishonest, rich people are dishonest, and people in the military are also dishonest. All of those people can do great things, but all of them are also human."

Akuma makes the point SEVERAL TIMES that he is saying they are people just like anyone else, so for you to suggest based on those posts that he believes they are inferior to civilians is very perplexing.

 

They are not "like anyone else", or "any walk of life". They are people who chose to put there lives at risk to protect yours. Respect that.

Yes, there are 2-4% of them that do bad things. Don't disrespect the other 96-98% because of it. How would you like to be one of those reading Akuma's thread, while in Iraq? I know it would upset me.



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Final-Fan on 26 March 2009

So, just to check, you think he thinks they're inferior because he thinks they're not superior?



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TheRealMafoo on 26 March 2009
Final-Fan said:
So, just to check, you think he thinks they're inferior because he thinks they're not superior?

 

So “the same but worse” means not inferior? He pointed out how they have higher rates of crime, but never pointed out a single thing they do that's better then average.



Final-Fan on 26 March 2009
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What you heard him say, I suspect, was that American soldiers are dropouts and murderers and rapists and he hates them.
What I heard him say was negative things about the men that serve. When I told him I had meet thousands that don't meet that description, he only came back with statistics to prove his position that solders have higher crime rates then non solders.

Not much pisses me off on this site.. but if that conversation had happened in person, he would have gotten his ass kicked.

He came across as a pompous ass rich collage kid that sits back in a safe country, and puts down solders during wartime. Thinking about it again just pisses me off. I am going to bed.
So it pisses you off that your anecdotes don't trump his statistics?
No, it pisses me off that his respect for the men and woman in the military is zero.

Give me ANY group of people, and I can find a collection of fact that show they are worse then the average population at something. That does not mean they don't deserve your respect.
Well I hope you didn't reach that conclusion from that thread, 'cause if you did you have no good basis for that opinion.
Ok, I will start a new thread... let's see how well this goes...

I can't believe you'd deny that you made the new thread in response to this.



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Final-Fan on 26 March 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
Final-Fan said:
So, just to check, you think he thinks they're inferior because he thinks they're not superior? 
So “the same but worse” means not inferior? He pointed out how they have higher rates of crime, but never pointed out a single thing they do that's better then average. 

And you naturally conclude that he believes that there is nothing. Should I have pointed out the words you spelled right in the other OP, instead of just the ones you got wrong?



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TheRealMafoo on 26 March 2009
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So, just to check, you think he thinks they're inferior because he thinks they're not superior?
So “the same but worse” means not inferior? He pointed out how they have higher rates of crime, but never pointed out a single thing they do that's better then average.

And you naturally conclude that he believes that there is nothing. Should I have pointed out the words you spelled right in the other OP, instead of just the ones you got wrong?

 

It's expect that people spell words correctly. Are you suggesting that Akuma feels it's expected that people in the Military are superior, thus he only needs to point out when they are inferior?



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Final-Fan on 26 March 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
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So, just to check, you think he thinks they're inferior because he thinks they're not superior?
So “the same but worse” means not inferior? He pointed out how they have higher rates of crime, but never pointed out a single thing they do that's better then average.
And you naturally conclude that he believes that there is nothing. Should I have pointed out the words you spelled right in the other OP, instead of just the ones you got wrong?
It's expect that people spell words correctly. Are you suggesting that Akuma feels it's expected that people in the Military are superior, thus he only needs to point out when they are inferior?

He used those statistics as a way to point out that people in the military are not in fact perfect, and in fact are far from perfect and have some places where they really need to improve.  This does not mean that he doesn't think other groups of people and other professions don't have areas they could improve as well.

But my point (which perhaps was poorly analogized) was that your apparent assumption that he believes military people are superior at nothing just because he gave no example of their superiority is ludicrous.



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SnesTea on 26 March 2009
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TheRealMafoo on 26 March 2009
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Galaki said:
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