@ mrstickball )
come on, Brazil has a population of 188.6 million, while the Czech Republic has 10.5 million and Finland 5.3 million, so ofcourse you would expect Brazils market to be bigger, although the latter countries are more industrialized
this console will probably only sell like 500k so there is no need for vgchatrz to track this
| badgenome said: Double Dragon? Shit, they've already won. |
This.
I'd also like to add that it's one very nice looking machine.
4 ≈ One
In countries like Poland Czech Republic and so on it wouldnt work. No one would pay 200 Dollars for this. For almost the same Price you can get Xbox360 (200-250) or Wii and the games for this Consoles are really cheap (illegal Copies). Most of the people which ownes Xbox or Wii in eastern Europe have a ton of copied games. And for a much lower Price you can get PS2/Xbox etc with better graphics and Games for no cost you can download the games in the Net. The download cost over 3g would be three times higher then the price for the games. And the graphics are to bad. Maybe in South America and India it would work but not for this Price the Price should be around 50 Dollars to be really attractiv. But even if you consider this: A PS2 is about 100 Dollars and the games 5 maximum 10 box. So why would someone buy this thing ??
The Kids in eastern EU have not much money they are not willing to pay money for games. And such a console has no prestige for them. They would rather Spend the money on a PS3 then to this thing. I see absolutely no chance that someone in eastern Europe would buy this. Its extremely overpriced for a cheap console. Even if they would lower the price to 50 Dollars the people wouldnt buy it for the same price you can get an old PS2 from Ebay. The Price is no advantage if the technique (just the graphics) would be on Wii Level the people would buy it but this ??
The biggest mistake they made is that they think people which would buy the new consoles. Would buy this thing but thats false. It is not an alternative to the new consoles its maximum an alternativ to older consoles. But they are cheaper. And have a lot more games. For the same Price. And people whith less money dont care about piracy they care just about the price. If they have already WIFI, Internetaccess or 3G they already know games like Quake. And if they are really poor the dont care about games at all.
This concept is going to fail. It would maybe work if they would offer a real alternative.
We`ll see
mrstickball said:
More or less, yes. If you took out the DVD, you'd also reduce the cooling needed, and could re-vamp the console to be a fraction of it's current size. I would stick with the current Arcade hard drive solution - the 256MB card, but upgrade it to something far more robust - in the 1-2GB range (which would be enough for a decent bit of games). The business model of the Zeebo is great, and is the approach needed for pirate-infested market. If your offering games at pirate prices ($5-15 USD), then your going to be able to compete with the pirates on some level. Throw in Gold membership for free, for online play (since your getting a ton of royalties from XBLA games), and you have a winner. My take on it is: Why charge so much for a console in a country that'll never legitimately buy your games? If you can make something, anything, and build marketshare, it would be worth it. A $100-$150 USD Arcade could do gangbusters in China, SE Asia, S-Africa and Latin America. Add in the fact that it'd be neutered for anything but your content, and it could do well. Brazil still makes Genesis machines, so you could have a long-term console, and build up an actual console gaming base in the countries. Not only this, you build up gaming profiles in those countries you can sweep with your metrics teams - find out what makes a Brazilian gamer 'tick', and understand their habits, so when you do launch a 'real' console, you know what they will be interested in, and what they want. The thing that's become obvious to me is that pirates make money on their games (or else they wouldn't do it, right?) Why don't the Big 3 sell their software, or products at pirate prices? Yes, it wouldn't be a lot of money, but you'd effectively end piracy since they can't make the software for as much as Nintendo, MS or Sony could. And for the potential profits of software in emerging markets, I always like to point to OS totals for movies: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2009&wk=12&p=.htm What's interesting about Brazil is that it's theatre market is larger than some European countries like the Czech Republic, and Finland. Slumdog Millionaire made over $500,000 USD last week on it's 3rd week there. That's actually quite good for any overseas movie, much less a niche movie like SM. At a $3,000 PTA in Brazil, you'd think they have the economy to purchase a lot of games - just not at American/European software prices. But at the $5-10 level, I think they'd buy a lot.
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Isn't the biggest issue with taxation? If they want to tap the Brazilian market for example they may need to allow the console to be manufactured by third parties in the country, which means they could offer the console at less than half the price it presently is officially.
Tease.
I find it funny the Zeebo had more internal memory than the Wii did.
For Pete's sake, Zeebo was the name of the clown from Are You Afraid Of The Dark in the 1990s.......
Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. " thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."
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