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Impulsivity said:
damndl0ser said:
Impulsivity said:
Neoraf said:
The Wii?
I'm not talking about sales... I'm talking about the hardcore game collection for adults.

The PS2 was the leader in hardcore game collection.
The Xbox 360 is the leader in hardcore game collection. Especially in RPGs (16 titles so far).

   Other then Mass Effect most of the 360 RPGs have been A) pretty childish and/or B) not very good.  I don't know where this leader in RPGs thing comes from.  The best JRPGs have all been on Playstation systems this gen (Persona 3, Persona 4, Disgaea, Valk Chronicles, Eternal Sonata).  The only above 80 JRPG on the 360 is Tales at 81, and I would bet just about anything that will be making the trip to the PS3 sooner or late just like Eternal Sonata.  Squares switch to the 360 would matter more if their games were worth a damn these days, they haven't been relevant in at least half a decade.

 

   As far as the hardcore games, the PS3 has pretty much every good 360 game other then the two gears of war games and Halo.  To make up for the few losses there are a tons of gains on the PS3 side like MGS4, Little Big Planet, Killzone 2 and Uncharted which more then make up for the handful of losses.  Plus, like Gears of War 1, even that tiny fraction of games that don't go 360 to PS3 make the trip to the PC where the games are 10 bucks less with much better graphics and free online.

   The game selection thing may have been true in 2006, but it most certainly is not true today.  The PS3 without a doubt now has the strongest library with the best in RPGs (Valk Chronicles), FPS games (killzone 2), 3rd person action (MGS4), platforming (Little Big Planet), Adventure (Uncharted) and sports (MLB 09 the Show) all truly exclusive to the PS3, no PC ports even.

 

Sorry to derail the thread here,  but I have a question for you.  Have you ever played any of the RPG's on the 360?   In my opinion your dead wrong on the RPG's.  The 360 really does shine over the PS3 there.

 

  I've played Infinate Undiscovery just last week (HATED it, I returned it the 2nd day).  It had poor graphics, a horrid main character in Crapello, awful gameplay and a dated story.  I stopped playing not long after the jail escape in disgust.

I played Star Ocean the week before that.  I was kind of indifferent, though I never loved the past star ocean games either.  It had somewhat decent graphics, almost no special move choices (by the 30s each character only had 2-4 moves to choose from, rediculous), a REALLY REALLY annoying character, possibly the worst ever, in Lymile (I love you Edgie and Ray Ray kay?) and endless hyper easy enemy encounters leading up to take forever uneventful boss fights.  I made it through the first disk before I got bored and moved on to other things, kind of par for the star ocean course.

  I tried Lost Odyssey, it was stilted, poorly designed and just boring.  The characters had horrid animation, the graphics were nothing to write home about, the split between immortals and humans was lame (along with the way of acquiring skills from paired humans), the boss fights were cheap and encouraged grinding...There was ONE bright spot, the text stories you found from time to time, they were well written and engaging unlike the ponderous LO dialogue.  I wish I hadn't lost 10 hours of my time trying that game.

   Blue Dragon was really really trite and boring.  It didn't help that it looked like it was designed for 8 year olds with the dragon ball Z graphics.  In addition the battles were simplistic and boring even by 1997 standards (when other JRPGs like Legend of the Dragoon and later Shadow Hearts were expanding to more involved battles).  The characters were poorly designed and not really likable and the story was again, pretty awful.  The 6s and 7 it got were overly generous

   Eternal Sonata wasn't too bad, a solid 8 or so, it had good graphics, a pretty decent semi real time combat system and an interesting concept.  The story went off the rails a bit near the end, but overall it was a good game with a great soundtrack.  It is also on the PS3, so can't be counted as a feather in the 360's cap anymore.

   Enchanted Arms was also ported, though it doesn't matter, because it was awful.

   I haven't tried Last Remnant to be Honest, I've heard such bad things that I really didn't want to waste even the 5 dollars on the rental.  

   The only game that was good on the 360 was Tales of Vesperia; the combat was fun, the story was not great but passable and the graphics were good enough.  It was great for a 360 RPG but probably would have been lost in the pack on the PS2 (like the Tales series often was).  

though even that game was nowhere near as good as Valk Chronicles, so on one of the few decent exclusives it still goes advantage PS3 in comparison.  IMO Valk Chronicles is the only JRPG of this gen that could really stand on its own compared with the many awesome PS2 JRPGs.  It had great art direction, great story, engaging characters and setting...everything.

   I may have missed one or two JRPGs here and there (other then last Remnant) but I'm pretty sure I've played all the "must play 360 JRPGS" and they've been found wanting.  The three best JRPGs of the last 3 years are without a doubt Persona 3, Persona 4 and Valk Chronicles.  If I was going to add a 4th I'd toss in Disgaea 3 before I'd go over to Tales.


   I don't know why anyone doubts that one can play these 360 RPGs and not like them, none of the review community did, so why is there this expectation that all players should?  I've played at least 500 RPGs over the last 22 years and none of the 360 RPGs are even in the top 100 (either in my personal estimation or in reviews given by review outlets).  In quantity, yes, the 360 is way out ahead, but does that really matter if the PS2 era quality isn't there?  I'd trade all the 360 RPGs for one Dark Cloud 2 or Shadow Hearts Covenant or hell, even a Kingdom Hearts or Front Mission.

  Feel free to check my gamercard, Impulsivity, I have all the games on my played list except for Star Ocean which was lost when I switched consoles last week and had to recover my gamercard (which apparently isn't updated daily when it comes to recovery).  I can answer more questions about the gameplay/plot if you don't believe me on that one.

The only JRPG on the ps3 I like is  Valk Chronicles so I guess we are totally oposites.  I don't think this gen has been very kind to many JRPG's when it comes to reviews not just the 360 but also on the PS3.  Just go look at Metacritic and you will see.  I wasn't saying that the lineup on the 360 is the endall beall but to me it is scores better than the ps3's, and I still haven't gotten to play SO4.



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good choice!




Why everybody who sold his console have to create a thread about it? I mean it's not like if we really care about that...



^^ Lol yeah now there's a war between some the 360 fans and the PS3 fans.



It's about an 85:15 ratio here in terms of members choice of platform (PS3\360). Of those around 25% each are raving mad fanboys who can't see in front of their eyes for their insecurity and defense of their gaming console.

If you do the maths you could almost predict exactly how many responses you are going to get saying if it was a good or bad idea, and how strongly they'd put forward their point of view.

Don't forget to bare in mind that it's not really a very interesting question and ones of this type are known to cause flaming and attract fanboys like flies on shit. So you will also have a lower quality of answer there for it too.

I would have asked your friends instead. Nobody on VGchartz can be trusted to answer questions like yours.



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atma998 said:
Why everybody who sold his console have to create a thread about it? I mean it's not like if we really care about that...

 

 

Yes best post in the thread. I was thinking exactly the same thing. Some people have such a superiority complex, they are completely ignorant to the fact that they aren't the only ones in the world and it doesn't revolve around them. I think they are called children.



I say good choice, for the price you got on it. Personally I would never sell my consoles, but I have all three. I do think PSwii or wii60 is a better combo than ps360.



 

For 450$ ? Great Move, You can always buy one back



this gen the 360 is the king of rpg's and will remain so for a good couple of years yet, his decision is something i understand i did the same last year. but since then have gotten a 360 back, because of all those great rpg's ( lost odyssey,tales of vesperia,infinite undiscovery,last remnant,blue dragon, star ocean 4 ). good luck deciding on what too use the $450 on, i think a wii is a good choice, alot of good games for u to enjoy.



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ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
this gen the 360 is the king of rpg's and will remain so for a good couple of years yet, his decision is something i understand i did the same last year. but since then have gotten a 360 back, because of all those great rpg's ( lost odyssey,tales of vesperia,infinite undiscovery,last remnant,blue dragon, star ocean 4 ). good luck deciding on what too use the $450 on, i think a wii is a good choice, alot of good games for u to enjoy.

 

I think the tables will be turned by 2012. With either ps3 or wii being the RPG console, but I totally agree that 360 is the current king of rpg.