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makingmusic476 said:
@onyx/vlad/esmoreit:

You guys are crazy.

Let me guess. You don't believe in the Ladder Theory, do you?

 



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Onyxmeth said:
vlad321 said:
Onyxmeth said:
vlad321 said:
Esmoreit said:
Onyxmeth said:

No I was referring to later in a marriage when the sex dies out. Does that mean a husband is being kicked off the real ladder, or is there something else we haven't explored yet? It wouldn't be likely he was getting kicked off because it's usually a gradual thing, not a "falling into the abyss" encounter. It's almost as if he slowly climbs down the real ladder and is coaxed to back up periodically.

 

Ow yeah...that's right. That requires some thinking. Perhaps the married women becomes a male-female hybrid when it comes to the ladder-theory. The married woman still has two ladders, but the sex ladder becomes divided like the man's ladder is. Instead of "actively pursue", "drunk and brag" and "only when drunk and don't brag" you'd get the female version: "would put marriage at stake for this one", "husband", "would not come near it". The husband is then definatly the centre, and serves as just that, an in-between. When the woman requires his service, he get's a call so to speak and otherwise...screw him!

I was once the lover of a married woman... I think the philospohy holds some truth. 

 

 

Esmoreit, you are well versed in the teachings of Ldder Theory too? I was not made aware of this, I blame Onyx.

As I said earlier what Onyx says is true, but I also beive the man gets 2 ladders after marriage. The situatoin for the man then becomes like the woman's, with a real and a "just friends" ladder. Obviously the wife starts off at the top, but then it drops off depending on how they handle problems, enabling someone else to out-rank her.

No. A man can never have two ladders. It goes against the fundamental thinking a man is born with. I was once married. It's a tough subject that I do not wish to get into, because it was a doomed time for me also. Trust me though, there is still one ladder. I believe the subject of cheating can be presented under the subsection of "loyalty" in Ladder Theory. You still desire to have sex with the other women but you place loyalty on your ladder and only women above the word qualify for affairhood. Anyone below is merely not worth the risk. So while your standards, may stay the same, the loyalty clause may make you raise who you're willing to have sex with. You may sub out "loyalty" for others words also, like "guilt" or "not wanting to get kicked out of my house", etc.

 

Yes, however do you not agree that the "loyalty zone" can just as easily be its own ladder? While the principle is different than the Friends Ladder for women, the Loyalty Ladder would still be the same principle. People you will just never have sex with no matter what, becaause they are not worth it.

 

I get what you're saying but this has been presented to the creator before and he goes over this in Ladder Theory. Remember this passage?

Can't the two ladders be represented as just one big ladder for women?

A lot of people have suggested that women really only have one ladder, or men really have two, and both are completely missing the point of the 1-2 ladder scheme. Yes you COULD say that guys who women won't fuck are way down on their only ladder and you COULD say that guys have a separate ladder for women they wouldn't fuck.

The point of saying women have two ladders and men have 1 ladder is to illustrate the fundamental difference in outlook between men and women. The point is that for men, there is a ranking that takes place based on the pie charts and women get put on the ladder and that's it. How much do I want to fuck her is the fundamental unit of a man's thought.

A woman on the other hand, seems able to recognize atrributes in a man that would make her want to fuck him and yet still not fuck him, either because he is too good a friend, or because she just 'doesn't see him that way' or by some strange mystery of human chemistry. So the metaphorof the two ladders is to illustrate this fundamental difference in thought.

You see. It's not about the actions people take, but their fundamental differences in thought based on their sex. The man is still always rating women for a single ladder, but in marriage there may be more conditions to actually do something about it. Or in some guys cases, no restrictions at all.

 

 

In the passage I have bolded and underlined, is woman that doesn't meet the requirements to be "worth it" not someone you want to fuck yet still not fuck her, because of your spouse or because she just isn't worth it?



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Onyxmeth said:
makingmusic476 said:
@onyx/vlad/esmoreit:

You guys are crazy.

Let me guess. You don't believe in the Ladder Theory, do you?

 

No... he just has either not experienced married women, or women thought-processes to see the value behind the theory. It'll come eventually.

I will not require my sleep to further ponder on the issue at hand

 



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Onyxmeth said:
makingmusic476 said:
@onyx/vlad/esmoreit:

You guys are crazy.

Let me guess. You don't believe in the Ladder Theory, do you?

 

 

He's a heretic, that or he jsut can't handle the intellectual whoring going on in this thread.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

I'll repeat and add emphasis:

You guys are fucking crazy.



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vlad321 said:

 

In the passage I have bolded and underlined, is woman that doesn't meet the requirements to be "worth it" not someone you want to fuck yet still not fuck her, because of your spouse or because she just isn't worth it?

That line of thinking just doesn't apply to men. I'd like to give you more on that, but as a man I can't understand it any more than you do. A woman philosopher dealing in Ladder Theory could probably shine more light on that.

How it relates to marriage though, I don't think it essentially does. The way I see it is, a man still has his one ladder. Let's say his wife is a 7. Now your natural instincts would be to cheat only going up into the 8's and above, or maybe slightly below if you were sure you wouldn't get caught. However, there is also the matter of where you place the loyalty clause. If you place it at 8.5, then regardless of an 8 meeting your standards to have sex with, you will not because of the loyalty clause's placement on the ladder.

In regards to women, she would also place her loyalty clause on the real ladder. Her friend ladder I assume stays intact and a man can still attempt a jump, but it's riskier than ever because she's married, and he doesn't know where she places her loyalty clause.

 



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Onyxmeth said:
vlad321 said:

 

In the passage I have bolded and underlined, is woman that doesn't meet the requirements to be "worth it" not someone you want to fuck yet still not fuck her, because of your spouse or because she just isn't worth it?

That line of thinking just doesn't apply to men. I'd like to give you more on that, but as a man I can't understand it any more than you do. A woman philosopher dealing in Ladder Theory could probably shine more light on that.

How it relates to marriage though, I don't think it essentially does. The way I see it is, a man still has his one ladder. Let's say his wife is a 7. Now your natural instincts would be to cheat only going up into the 8's and above, or maybe slightly below if you were sure you wouldn't get caught. However, there is also the matter of where you place the loyalty clause. If you place it at 8.5, then regardless of an 8 meeting your standards to have sex with, you will not because of the loyalty clause's placement on the ladder.

In regards to women, she would also place her loyalty clause on the real ladder. Her friend ladder I assume stays intact and a man can still attempt a jump, but it's riskier than ever because she's married, and he doesn't know where she places her loyalty clause.

 

You speak much truth, especially in the last paragraph. Given that case, in my experience, it is better for the man to falal into the abyss, than what awaits him if he does not fall.

Myabe this new member in question of the topic, can beocme one such specialist.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

I dont even feel like reading these long ass reponses...but WTH are you guys talkin about, cuz im pretty these walls of text arnt about msnorlead



Xxain said:
I dont even feel like reading these long ass reponses...but WTH are you guys talkin about, cuz im pretty these walls of text arnt about msnorlead

 

We were discussing something that binds all human beings together. Therefore they iherently involved her too.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

nordlead said:
RolStoppable said:
It took you guys long enough to realize.

QFT

 

 

Win.