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TWRoO said:
Cobretti2 said:
well like I said I didn't make this to agrue about how well or better would madworld sell here or there.

It would be good for some people here to realise how negitively they think of the Wii, by stepping back and looking at the positives. All the consoles have flaws in them.

Like I said... most of them are either not Wii owners... or bought a Wii because they usually buy many consoles but wanted it to be like the other 2.... and thus went in hating it before they tried it.

 

Exactly these are the some wii owners that need to be proactive instead of negative.

But hey in the end we can only offer helpful tips, will they listen is another story.

 

 



 

 

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While there may be a couple of users who fit the bill, i agree with what TWRoO said that most of the negative thinking comes from owners of the other consoles, or people claiming ownership of the Wii in order to better justify and validate their negative opinion of it.




Cobretti2 said:

Well lately there has been alot of complaining about alot of crap to do with the wii etc... now all I ever see is some Wii Owners and other gamers bitch here and there about the HUGE amount of casual games, however there is no real solutions or proactive things that they do. Well I am sick of it, life is TOO SHORT TO BITCH!

This thread is dedicated not for bashing but rather stating the problem and a solution. I will start this off.

 

Problem 1:

Complaining about X game has poor sales (i.e MadWorld)

Questions:

1. Did you buy the game yourself or just complaing about it selling poor?

2. Did you make aware/recommend it to your friends who own a Wii (well before the release date)?

Proactive Solution:

Buy the game your complaining about, recommend it to your friends by showing them some game footage online etc.. or at least getting them to know the name. Not everyone in the world uses the internet to look at game reviews and trailers etc... Most people are compolsive buyers, they just go out and buy.

 

Problem 2:

Negative Mind Set. Wii only sells casual games well, and only has casual games.

Questions:

1. How does sales of a casual game really affect my enjoyment of a core game?

2. Surely there has to be games that appeal to me?

3. Can I help change the way my gamer friends see the Wii?

Proactive Solution:

Your preception of the Wii can change, there are plenty of core games on the Wii that can be enjoyed. If your a real gamer you would understand that each console has its good and bad points. Just because there is more of casual then core games, doesn't meaning there is nothing that will appeal to you and your friends.

Be postive! Don't take sale figures to heart. Don't take how many casual games there are to heart. This will only make you less likely to buy games in general (core games), meaning lower sale. You are smarter then that. You know how to use the internet, find the games that appeal to you and buy them, then recommend them to your friends. Don't waste your energy complaining about casual games when we know the GAMING MARKET has expanded. Just forget about the casuals, do your research as mentioned before you will find something that you will enjoy. Life is too short to complain about irrelivent things to you.

 

QFT every last bit of it.  Finally someone agrees what I been pretty much saying for the last month or so.  You win buddy.

 



I was thinking on something similar but about the hype. PS3 owners for example get hyped for every single piece of generic FPS with shiny gray colors on it but Wii owners are more passive, even Madworld didn't get 5 to 15 threads every day on VG Chartz



alfredofroylan said:
I was thinking on something similar but about the hype. PS3 owners for example get hyped for every single piece of generic FPS with shiny gray colors on it but Wii owners are more passive, even Madworld didn't get 5 to 15 threads every day on VG Chartz

Well there's nothing wrong with moderation.  It's just people need to stop whining and complaining all the time is the main message here.  Whine if you got something to back it up if not then don't.  Or start being more proactive such that you have the ability to.  Pretty much the main thing here.

But yea don't go as far as the PS3 fans because it's annoying.  Not to mention the hyping up generic shooters part is not needed.  We can hype up the conduit but keep it in moderation haha.

 



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My friends complain that there are no games available on the Wii except shovelware. Even when I point out games like Madworld, The Conduit, etc., they just claim that they borrow from other games.

I debate with them and enjoy throwing the sales figures at them. One of my friends seems to disregard everything Wii despite the fact that he owns one. When I suggested that he check out Madworld for about two weeks straight he started talking about selling his Wii to a game store.

I bought Madworld the day it came out and brought it over to his house three days later. Four of us were playing Command and Conquer on the PC and once finished I loaded up Madworld and played in front of them. One by one they all came and checked it out and all said something to the extent of "I might have to check this game out" or "This looks like a game that I might enjoy."

I believe that, first, you play and enjoy the games you want regardless of what someone else says. If you find a game that you think deserves support, BUY IT yourself and worry about others first. If you think a game is good and want it to suceed, you better support it yourself. (Don't even get me going on the music business..) Once you have it, continue to use word of mouth to recommend it to other people and show it to them if possible.

P.S. The game is awesome. I am through the first seven levels, I think, but haven't played it since last Saturday as I have been in Texas since Monday. I will load it up and play it for a few hours when I get home tomorrow night and will hopefully finish "normal" and will check out hard.



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r4in said:
My friends complain that there are no games available on the Wii except shovelware. Even when I point out games like Madworld, The Conduit, etc., they just claim that they borrow from other games.

I debate with them and enjoy throwing the sales figures at them. One of my friends seems to disregard everything Wii despite the fact that he owns one. When I suggested that he check out Madworld for about two weeks straight he started talking about selling his Wii to a game store.

I bought Madworld the day it came out and brought it over to his house three days later. Four of us were playing Command and Conquer on the PC and once finished I loaded up Madworld and played in front of them. One by one they all came and checked it out and all said something to the extent of "I might have to check this game out" or "This looks like a game that I might enjoy."

I believe that, first, you play and enjoy the games you want regardless of what someone else says. If you find a game that you think deserves support, BUY IT yourself and worry about others first. If you think a game is good and want it to suceed, you better support it yourself. (Don't even get me going on the music business..) Once you have it, continue to use word of mouth to recommend it to other people and show it to them if possible.

P.S. The game is awesome. I am through the first seven levels, I think, but haven't played it since last Saturday as I have been in Texas since Monday. I will load it up and play it for a few hours when I get home tomorrow night and will hopefully finish "normal" and will check out hard.

See a proactive gamer. Thanks for sharing. A small action like this can simply show others the good that they been looking for.

 

 



 

 

I will admit as a Wii owner I have been ignoring the console lately. I only have three games on the console altogether (Wii Sports, Super Mario Galaxy, Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition). There are many titles out there that deserve my purchase but what gets me glued once I step foot in the game store is the 360 section, then the PS3 section. I just walk right past the Wii section like its not even there. I do look at it but I don't have second thoughts on purchases like I do PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Most used PS3 or 360 games can be found at a cheaper price at GameStop like $9 games and such, those are the titles I pick up, the Wii doesn't have cheap used games like that. The cheapest Wii games are priced at like $17.

I haven't complained and said the Wii has no software. It does, but what happens is that the many of Wii owners I know only play party games or casual-easy pick up and play games. And ignore the hardcore-at-best games i.e. Madworld, Okami and such. I for example am working on a solution to pick those titles up and try in spread the word to more people about the Wii actually has decent software and not those titled "kiddie" games.



xlost7 said:

I will admit as a Wii owner I have been ignoring the console lately. I only have three games on the console altogether (Wii Sports, Super Mario Galaxy, Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition). There are many titles out there that deserve my purchase but what gets me glued once I step foot in the game store is the 360 section, then the PS3 section. I just walk right past the Wii section like its not even there. I do look at it but I don't have second thoughts on purchases like I do PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Most used PS3 or 360 games can be found at a cheaper price at GameStop like $9 games and such, those are the titles I pick up, the Wii doesn't have cheap used games like that. The cheapest Wii games are priced at like $17.

I haven't complained and said the Wii has no software. It does, but what happens is that the many of Wii owners I know only play party games or casual-easy pick up and play games. And ignore the hardcore-at-best games i.e. Madworld, Okami and such. I for example am working on a solution to pick those titles up and try in spread the word to more people about the Wii actually has decent software and not those titled "kiddie" games.

Well if your VGC game collection has any truth to it then you also only have 4 PS3 games... a more respectable 10 for the X360 though.

You should really look around for cheap Wii games by the way.... Some of my recent bargains: (UK purchases... but they should be easy enough to find at that price over yonder, I find that generally if I can find a game in £££s... you Americans can generally get it for about the same number of $$$s)

Geometry Wars: Galaxies - £8 (2nd hand, but perfect condition) Proper retro stuff... you also get the XBL retro evolved on the disc too.

Okami - £12 new... from ASDA

Metroid Prime and No More Heroes - £30 (offer of 2 games for £30)

If you like racers you should be able to pick up Excite Truck dirt cheap now... I paid £22 for mine but I have seen it for under £10 more recently.

Batallion Wars Wii - £20... although I have since seen it as cheap as £12.

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Games you probably won't be able to find much cheaper than the RRP are Mario Kart, LoZ:TP and things like that.

 



@TWRoO

Oh dude, my game collection is spot on and truthful. I wouldn't lie about that, in fact I just started working on my PS3 library a few weeks ago, even though I had my PS3 for over a year now. The Wii had about a few months (6 months exact). Not that many titles have a purchased yet. I mean I did own Red Steel and Naruto: Clash of Ninja, but ended up trading those games in.

I saw at GameStop, Okami was going for $20 and No More Heroes, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption for $25 a piece. Nice deals and prices but every time I managed to walk in the game store I look at the 360 considering it has a diverse line-up of games, cheaper ones to be exact!