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Staude on 20 March 2009

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Final-Fan on 20 March 2009
1337 Gamer said:
KBG29 said:
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-$299
80GB Console
1 Dualshock 3
1 ethernet cable
1 composite cable

-$399
160GB Console
1 Dualshock 3
1 ethernet cable
1 HDMI cable

-$499
250GB Console
1 Dualshock 3
1 official headset
1 ethernet cable
1 HDMI cable
+2 extra USB
+card readers

IMO they would be stupid not to go with a gameplan similar to this. HDD's are all basically the same price, and when you buy in bulk as they do the cot between a 80 and 250GB HDD is mabye $10 - 20. Then you add in another 10 - 20 for the HDMI in the higher models, and 30 for the headset in the 250GB sku, and Sony is selling consumers around 70 more dollars worth the stuff for 200 more.
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Not adding HDMI to every model woulkd be a waste of resources. Its dosnt cost much to include, idk how much,  certainly not as mch as producing two different motherboards otherwise M$ would probably be implimenting this with the arcade.

He doesn't mean different motherboards, he means having the physical cable included with the SKU (or not). 



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Final-Fan on 20 March 2009

Hey it's getting better



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Final-Fan on 20 March 2009

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damndl0ser on 20 March 2009
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"Don't forget not only does the division have to be profitable on every console sold, it needs to pay off that racked up debt from its previous loss."

But you said the Xbox division was p? OH SHI~rofitable

 

I was trying to get at, each console was profitable.  Yes M$ has a large debt that needs to be payed for, however it is well on its way to doing that.  Even with another drop in price it will more than likely still make a profit.  And the other point is (Sony) with another price drop is headed in the other direction.  

 

Anytime a company introduces an item out into the public domain, it will incur a lot of loss until it can get on its feet.  And thats why M$ has stuck with the gaming divisison and why they are on their way to making a profit this gen.



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Final-Fan on 20 March 2009
damndl0ser said:
Final-Fan said:
"Don't forget not only does the division have to be profitable on every console sold, it needs to pay off that racked up debt from its previous loss."

But you said the Xbox division was profitable? OH SHI~
I was trying to get at, each console was profitable.  Yes M$ has a large debt that needs to be payed for, however it is well on its way to doing that.  Even with another drop in price it will more than likely still make a profit.  And the other point is (Sony) with another price drop is headed in the other direction.  

(2) Anytime a company introduces an item out into the public domain, it will incur a lot of loss until it can get on its feet.  And thats why M$ has stuck with the gaming divisison and why they are on their way to making a profit this gen.

I'm just saying that you seem to be using two definitions of "profitable" and you need to cut it down to one.  Or at least don't use one definition just for Sony and the other just for MS. 

(2) Not true, see Nintendo. 



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damndl0ser on 20 March 2009
Final-Fan said:
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Final-Fan said:
"Don't forget not only does the division have to be profitable on every console sold, it needs to pay off that racked up debt from its previous loss."

But you said the Xbox division was profitable? OH SHI~
I was trying to get at, each console was profitable.  Yes M$ has a large debt that needs to be payed for, however it is well on its way to doing that.  Even with another drop in price it will more than likely still make a profit.  And the other point is (Sony) with another price drop is headed in the other direction.  

(2) Anytime a company introduces an item out into the public domain, it will incur a lot of loss until it can get on its feet.  And thats why M$ has stuck with the gaming divisison and why they are on their way to making a profit this gen.

I'm just saying that you seem to be using two definitions of "profitable" and you need to cut it down to one.  Or at least don't use one definition just for Sony and the other just for MS. 

(2) Not true, see Nintendo. 

 

Profitable for each console sold is not 2 seperate definitions.  I seriously don't get what your point is.  I just stated that M$ was profitable for over a year, how is that not in line with being profitable with each console sold?  When the original xbox came out it wasn't profitable and lost all those billions, so it actually furthers my point.

 

And as for the nintendo comment, nintendo didn't have much competition when it came out so it is pretty much the exception to the rule.  Not to mention it has always sold its consoles at a profit.



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Orca_Azure on 20 March 2009

Sony's metaphorical gonads are in a vice now though- people are expecting a price cut so they won't go and buy a ps3 only to have it fall 100 dollars the next day. So those people wait. Waiting = no sales for ps3 = sony getting even deeper in 3rd place.

Their hand has been forced in this exchange- price cut is almost guaranteed.



Final-Fan on 20 March 2009
damndl0ser said:
Final-Fan said:
damndl0ser said:
Final-Fan said:
"Don't forget not only does the division have to be profitable on every console sold, it needs to pay off that racked up debt from its previous loss."

But you said the Xbox division was profitable? OH SHI~
I was trying to get at, each console was profitable.  Yes M$ has a large debt that needs to be payed for, however it is well on its way to doing that.  Even with another drop in price it will more than likely still make a profit.  And the other point is (Sony) with another price drop is headed in the other direction.  

(2) Anytime a company introduces an item out into the public domain, it will incur a lot of loss until it can get on its feet.  And thats why M$ has stuck with the gaming divisison and why they are on their way to making a profit this gen.
I'm just saying that you seem to be using two definitions of "profitable" and you need to cut it down to one.  Or at least don't use one definition just for Sony and the other just for MS.

(2) Not true, see Nintendo.
Profitable for each console sold is not 2 seperate definitions.  I seriously don't get what your point is.  I just stated that M$ was profitable for over a year, how is that not in line with being profitable with each console sold?  When the original xbox came out it wasn't profitable and lost all those billions, so it actually furthers my point.

And as for the nintendo comment, nintendo didn't have much competition when it came out so it is pretty much the exception to the rule.  Not to mention it has always sold its consoles at a profit.

It sounded earlier like you were saying "MS is profitable now, but Sony won't be profitable until it makes up all its losses", which MS hasn't done for the period beginning in 2005 per an earlier post which you have not to my knowledge disputed.  So that would be two contradictory definitions unless you feel I have misinterpreted you, in which case please explain. 

I was referring to Nintendo and the Wii.  As for always selling at a profit, yes it does, which explains how it can fly in the face of your earlier assertion.  Also, I don't know this for sure, but didn't Sega do the same thing up until the Saturn?  If true, this (and Atari 2600, etc.) would seem to make the last decade of loss leaders the anomaly, and not Nintendo's non-loss-leader model. 



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NJ5 on 20 March 2009


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