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nightever on 17 March 2009
MasterZack said:
Of course, and it will be at the end of the year!

quite a fanboy

 



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XiaoMay on 17 March 2009
Oyvoyvoyv said:

It won't.

 

Wii is selling pretty mediocre in Japan. At the looks of it, it's gonna struggle to beat 15M.

PsP should be close to 15M by the end of 2009. Well, above 14M at least.

Wii won't catch up.... The gap might actually widen in 2009.

lol

Wii will see a price drop and new versions and bundle and will pass PSP without any problem aroun 2010 when PSP will be dying



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jake_the_fake1 on 17 March 2009

if the sales trend continue in japan like they have been for a while now, the wii will never catch up to the PSP.



ameratsu on 17 March 2009

Many of you are forgetting the rumoured (but likely, because sony sucks at keeping secrets) umd-less psp redesign later this year.



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mrstickball on 17 March 2009
makingmusic476 said:
mrstickball said:

IMO, arguing Monster Hunter on a console is like arguing Pokemon on a console. They are quintessential handheld games, and do not translate well to consoles at all. Same reason we don't see a ton of grand, awesome, FPS games on handhelds....They just don't translate well.

Well, it think Pokemon could be done on consoles rather well, but they'd have to drastically change the series to do it.  Make it an MMO, make battles 3D like in Pokemon Stadium, plus a load of other changes.

And it would be awesome.

And what are the chances that would actually happen with a Pokemon game? I think it's a long shot. Same way I think Monster Hunter 3 will do very little for the Wii, in comparison to what MHP has done for the PSP.

 



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makingmusic476 on 17 March 2009
mrstickball said:
makingmusic476 said:
mrstickball said:

IMO, arguing Monster Hunter on a console is like arguing Pokemon on a console. They are quintessential handheld games, and do not translate well to consoles at all. Same reason we don't see a ton of grand, awesome, FPS games on handhelds....They just don't translate well.

Well, it think Pokemon could be done on consoles rather well, but they'd have to drastically change the series to do it.  Make it an MMO, make battles 3D like in Pokemon Stadium, plus a load of other changes.

And it would be awesome.

And what are the chances that would actually happen with a Pokemon game? I think it's a long shot. Same way I think Monster Hunter 3 will do very little for the Wii, in comparison to what MHP has done for the PSP.

 

 

Oh shut up and let me dream.  xD



atma998 on 17 March 2009
makingmusic476 said:
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
atma998 said:
MontanaHatchet said:

 

 

I don't underestimate them, I understand them just fine. But you seem to forget that Monster Hunter isn't the only reason the PSP performs so well in Japan. It's Monster Hunter, Crisis Core, the various Gundam games, and a variety of colors and models. Monster Hunter is definitely the biggest series for the PSP in Japan and it does a lot to drive hardware sales, but we still have no idea how successful it will be on the Wii. Brain Age 2 on the DS sold over 5 million in Japan, while Big Brain Academy on the Wii only sold 400k. There are a bunch of other examples that prove that success on one platform doesn't necessarily equal success on another. Dragon Quest is a big series, and I expect it to move a lot of hardware. Still, a gap of nearly 4 million (and growing every week) won't just go away because of 2 games. The PSP, even after the launch of MH2G and the PSP-3000 and a bunch of new colors has only moved an additional 3.1 million units over the course of a whole year. Not only that, but the PSP won't be standing still. The Wii will have to not only sell more every week, but have an advantage in numbers that will eventually close the gap between the two consoles.

 

 

 PSP was released in late 2004 while the Wii was released in late 2006. When PSP will stop selling, Wii will sell millions. You have to take that in account first  before claiming a gap of 4 millions. And no, Crisis Core or Gundam games are not the reason why PSP is selling right now (take a look at the legs of those games...). You comparison of Brain Age 2 vs. Big Brain Academy with MH and DQ was ridiculous. RPG is the best selling genre in Japan (console or handheld) so I don't think it will not sell as much on console than it should on a handheld (in proportion).  

Smashchu2: Thank you for having a respectful argument. If I seemed rude either, I'm sorry. Unfortunately your friend here doesn't share the same idea.

Atma: So if the PSP has been out longer, why is it still selling so much more? You could argue that the Wii will still be selling after the PSP is nearly dead, but that wouldn't matter much. The gap will get bigger and bigger before that, and by that time, the Wii's sales will likely be too low to close the gap. As for Crisis Core and Gundam, they're only small parts of the why the PSP's hardware is selling so well. Heck, the PSP just got a big boost in Japan. Was it from new colors, or the game that you so love to claim is responsible for EVERYTHING? My comparison was not ridiculous. The same thing could be said with Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and hell, another RPG, FINAL FANTASY. The best selling Final Fantasy game on a handheld is Final Fantasy III, which sold 2.27 million on the DS. Compare that to 9.72 million for Final Fantasy 7 and you start to wonder. And while you say that RPGs are the best selling games for both consoles and handhelds, that doesn't seem to be true for the Wii. Its best selling RPG in Japan is Super Paper Mario at about 580k (if you even call that game an RPG, what a disappointment).

 

First of all I completely agree with Smashchu2.

 

Now, if I follow your logic PSP sales will always be > than Wii sales? If you take a look at numbers, the main reason why PSP got a boost in Japan is MH or maybe you prefer to believe it's a coincidence that the boost started the same week of MH release date? Now you're saying that your comparison was not ridiculous by making another even more ridiculous comparison : comparing a remake (FFIII) with the best selling FF. What's your point BTW? Finally the reason why the Wii is so low actually is precisely because there wasnt any big RPG released on this platform. MH3 and DQX are among the biggest franchises in that genre. Plus games like Wii Sports Resort and upcoming big 1st party titles can also give HUGE boost to the console and outsell PSP in the long run.

 

The PSP's boost started when the PSP-2000 (PSP Slim) was released, with Crisis Core helping it along (and funnily enough, Dissidia ended up outselling Crisis Core).  Monster Hunter Portable G 2 (and various other games) just kept it going.

http://www.vgchartz.com/japweekly.php?date=39341&console=&maker=&disp=Japanese+Name&boxartz=1

It was the PSP Slim more than anything else that gave the PSP this boost, much like the DS Lite is what sparked the DS's crazy sales in Japan.  The PSP's sales were averaging ~50k a week between the release of the Slim (Sept. '07) and MHPG2 (March '08), which is actually more than they've been average these past few weeks ( 35-40k, aside from last week when it got a boost from... new colors!  not a game!).

Stop acting like he's an idiot.  Your entire post reeks of condescension.

"If you take a look at numbers"

Maybe YOU should've taken a look at the numbers.

Edit:

Also, Monster Hunter only became popular because of the ad-hoc, on the go multiplayer.  The console versions never enjoyed this, and thus never enjoyed sales anywhere close to the handheld versions.  It is unlikely that Monster Hunter 3 will be able to replicate the success of the (current and future) PSP verions.

OK

My previous post didnt contain any condescension, sorry if you felt hurt when I said that he should '' take a look at numbers''. Now after taking a brief look at what you said I must say that YOU should take a further look at the numbers. The PSP 2000 did give a huge boost at PSP HW....for about 1 month only, after that the Wii constantly outsold the PSP week after week until the launch of MH2G in early march 2008. Since then PSP had always outsold the Wii.

Here's a link for you :

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Japan&cons2=PSP&reg2=Japan&cons3=X360&reg3=------&start=39320&end=39768

I agree that some kind of games won't be successful in making the transition from a handheld to a home console or vice-versa. But really if you take a look at some trailers of MH3 and you're still saying that it won't be as successful as it did in the past, I feel sorry for you fanboy. It's like saying DQIX won't be as successful as DQVIII because it's on a handheld.



MasterZack on 17 March 2009
nightever said:
MasterZack said:
Of course, and it will be at the end of the year!

quite a fanboy

 


i'm being serious.

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Oyvoyvoyv on 17 March 2009
MasterZack said:
nightever said:
MasterZack said:
Of course, and it will be at the end of the year!

quite a fanboy

 

 

i'm being serious.

 

Well, that doesn't make it any better... Frankly, it makes it worse.

You're either

A) Completely un-informed (most likely)

or

B) Stupid

 

Total sales:

Wii: 7900K

PsP: 11800K

Difference: 3900K

 

Wii's total sold in 2008: 2901K

 

The lowest possible the PsP can sell in 2009: 2000K

 

That means that Wii would need to sell 5900K in 43 weeks to tie the PsP.

 

That won't happen.



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ameratsu on 17 March 2009

maybe masterzack means it will outsell it on a weekly basis, not life to date. if he thinks the latter then he's clueless.



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