I was just following your logic here . If it's harder to get a hold of a control scheme how is that not a retarded control scheme? Are you saying that people should purposefully make a pain-in-the-ass control scheme so that it can be considered better?

As deneidez has already said, you have failed to give any examples, or are just scraping the bottom of the barrel, when ti comes to games that are actually more complex and require more than a 10-year-old's thinking.

EDIT: I can 1up your "advanced" childhood. I was playing Civ1 whan i was 6-10 before I came to the US.

So there isn't any game on the PC either that requires more thinking than a 10-years-old could do ?
Well that's nice to know.

I thought we were talking average here. I can tell you that if I even give Civ1 to an average console gamer they wouldn't be able to handle it.

Maybe we only think that we were smarter at that time, but in reality we weren't ? I dunno

Actually I know for a fact most people can't handle Civ1.

You should spread the news all over the internet methinks ^^

Deus Ex series rules over all! ;)

Didn't I give you already an example?

Heres challenge for genius like yourself, beat this game on easy:

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/DOM3/DOM3_page.html

I was talking with vlad and not with you.......

What do you expect from me ? To buy that game ? Surely not, but I give the demo a go.

Nailed it, D-EX 2 was a console watered down attempt which destroyed the series.