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Finally "The Wii is Doomed" threads, I never thought I'd see the day



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1. No pricecut
2. No big games

And yet it is in the game. Just because it's not raping 360 and PS3 in sales anymore doesn't mean its dying.

And in the end all they have to do is release a new color, a new gimmick like motionplus or a built in camera and they start raping in sales again.



Predictions for 2009:

360: 39-42 PS3: 31-34 Wii: 67-70

Future projection

Wii will hit 100 million before christmas 2010 (made december 2008)

NDS Family will have sold and shipped more then PS2 at the end of 2009 (made january 2009)

twesterm said:

lol you can't combine the 360 and PS3, unless you want to combine the Wii and DS since those are both the casual markets.

And being able to walk into a store and buy the Wii isn't the end of the Wii unless you can say the Xbox 360 died in 2006 and the PS3 died early 2007.

 

False.

 

PS3 and 360 are essentially the same experience, just a slight variation on it. Most people will only buy one or the other.

 

One of the reasons Wii's "dominance" has been I believe vastly oversold while hardcore gamers are shortchanged is the simple fact that for sales numbers the hardcore/hi def market is divided in two (PS3 and 360) while the causual/waggle market only has one contender.

 

Imagine if the situation were reversed. Let us say PS3 was never released, so at least 80-90% of PS3 buyers each month would likely buy a 360 instead. Let us say also Apple had introduced a waggle console. Lets say we see this typical monthly NPD today:

Wii 600k

360 300k

PS3 200k

In the no Ps3/Apple waggle scenario, it would look like this:

 

360 500k

Wii 350k

Apple Wagglebox 250K

 

Nothing actually changed but I'd be willing to bet the mainstream pundits would have a massively different view on things. Suddenly the 360 would be portrayed as dominating and the Wii and Apple console as failures. When really nothing at all changed regarding the casual versus hardcore market share. The casual was simply split in two as the hardcore is today.

 

Also besides all that, if you add the DS to Wii then you must also add the PSP (it is more of a non casual "system") to PS3 and you lose even worse lol. That's just stupid. Leave handhelds out of this.

 

 



sharky974 said:
twesterm said:

lol you can't combine the 360 and PS3, unless you want to combine the Wii and DS since those are both the casual markets.

And being able to walk into a store and buy the Wii isn't the end of the Wii unless you can say the Xbox 360 died in 2006 and the PS3 died early 2007.

 

False.

 

PS3 and 360 are essentially the same experience, just a slight variation on it. Most people will only buy one or the other.

 

One of the reasons Wii's "dominance" has been I believe vastly oversold while hardcore gamers are shortchanged is the simple fact that for sales numbers the hardcore/hi def market is divided in two (PS3 and 360) while the causual/waggle market only has one contender.

 

Imagine if the situation were reversed. Let us say PS3 was never released, so at least 80-90% of PS3 buyers each month would likely buy a 360 instead. Let us say also Apple had introduced a waggle console. Lets say we see this typical monthly NPD today:

Wii 600k

360 300k

PS3 200k

In the no Ps3/Apple waggle scenario, it would look like this:

 

360 500k

Wii 350k

Apple Wagglebox 250K

 

Nothing actually changed but I'd be willing to bet the mainstream pundits would have a massively different view on things. Suddenly the 360 would be portrayed as dominating and the Wii and Apple console as failures. When really nothing at all changed regarding the casual versus hardcore market share. The casual was simply split in two as the hardcore is today.

 

Also besides all that, if you add the DS to Wii then you must also add the PSP (it is more of a non casual "system") to PS3 and you lose even worse lol. That's just stupid. Leave handhelds out of this.

 

 

 

You do know that just because something has competition you can't give them a free pass right because that is what you're trying to do.

Also, you might want to add up the PS3, PSP, and 360 and compare them to the Wii and Ds numbers before making a statement like you did at the end.



Gilgamesh said:

Finally "The Wii is Doomed" threads, I never thought I'd see the day

I take it you weren't around for the summer of aught six...



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Khuutra said:
Gilgamesh said:

Finally "The Wii is Doomed" threads, I never thought I'd see the day

I take it you weren't around for the summer of aught six...

 

Or any time someone has seen a Wii on the shelf or online anywhere in the last two years.  It's like the moment Wii's don't sell out within five minutes and manage to sit on the shelves people think the Wii is suddenly going to die. 

It would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.



It's true. The Wii is doomed when we could readily buy one at store. They are supposed to be sold-out forever!



Galaki said:
It's true. The Wii is doomed when we could readily buy one at store. They are supposed to be sold-out forever!

 

not here and not in japan.

but it selling decently



Console gaming in general is dying down in Japan, at any rate. It doesn't just apply to the Wii. Everything's moving to handhelds.



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