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Bitmap Frogs on 12 March 2009
MikeB said:
@ Bitmap Frogs

Your cheapshot seems aimed at me. But really to be as accurate as possible with our estimates, the questions I asked are really very interesting and healthy questions to ask yourself.

 

Ah, so you felt like it was aimed at you?

So you are indeed doing damage control. Thanks for confirmating it.





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MikeB on 12 March 2009
SickleSigh said:
MikeB said:
The gap by March 2007 seems a bit low to me, considering the 360's 1 year and 5 months headstart for PAL regions. Less than 7 million seems very low for 1 year of additional sales for the main NTSC regions and more for other regions.

Did the 360 really sell this slowly early on? I remember at the time many people hailed its "amazing" sales...

Ps2 was still selling well I think and might have slowed 360 sales.

Certainly it was good competition, the PS2 was the best sold home console in 2006. But the PS2 sold well in 2007 as well, for Sony's previous two fiscal years it sold over 28 million units to retail. So per year multiple times the amount the 360 is believed to have sold its first year on the market (about 14 million vs 5.5 million units according to VGChartz 360 sales data). Retailers of course bought new PS2s at roughly the same rate they were selling these systems themselves as they will have left over stock from the previous year.

It seems on the low end for such a big headstart.

 



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crumas2 on 12 March 2009

Thanks for the graphs. Very nice.

It would appear that the current market positions are going to hold steady for the remainder of this generation.



Seece on 12 March 2009

MAJOR damage control!

MikeB ever heard of stuffing the channel.

I think its even been announced the 360 has sold 8 million more by Microsoft themselves ... and no I don't think they're allowed to lie about that.



 

darthdevidem01 on 12 March 2009

well done PS3 in japan

well done 360 in NA
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nordlead on 12 March 2009
MikeB said:

Based on sold to retail data, the PS3 vs 360 sales gap was 6.7 million units by the end of 2008.

VGChartz had the end user sales gap at 7.7 million units, so according to VGChartz there were 1 million more PS3s on the shelves than 360s.

To me this seems strange, as 360s at least over here seem to remain on the shelves longer than PS3s and the PS3 over that time sold out a couple of times over this period, while there are still 119 Euro (incl. tax) 360 holiday season systems left in stores here as of today (the 30 euro off deal lasted a few months until the end of 2008).

1 million extra PS3s is a lot of extra shelf space! Are the PS3 sections in the average game store twice as big as for the 360 section or something?

In christmas 08 there were plenty of reports of Best Buys and other stores being stocked with hundreds of PS3's to the point of them being all over the store. Blu-ray players were the big deal this holiday, so Sony probably had an easy time convincing retailers to buy plenty of stock. It isn't that hard to believe they stuffed the channels this time around.

Microsoft has done the same before, but didn't apear to do so this year, so again it isn't all that unbelievable.

 




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Seece on 12 March 2009
nordlead said:
MikeB said:

Based on sold to retail data, the PS3 vs 360 sales gap was 6.7 million units by the end of 2008.

VGChartz had the end user sales gap at 7.7 million units, so according to VGChartz there were 1 million more PS3s on the shelves than 360s.

To me this seems strange, as 360s at least over here seem to remain on the shelves longer than PS3s and the PS3 over that time sold out a couple of times over this period, while there are still 119 Euro (incl. tax) 360 holiday season systems left in stores here as of today (the 30 euro off deal lasted a few months until the end of 2008).

1 million extra PS3s is a lot of extra shelf space! Are the PS3 sections in the average game store twice as big as for the 360 section or something?

In christmas 08 there were plenty of reports of Best Buys and other stores being stocked with hundreds of PS3's to the point of them being all over the store. Blu-ray players were the big deal this holiday, so Sony probably had an easy time convincing retailers to buy plenty of stock. It isn't that hard to believe they stuffed the channels this time around.

Microsoft has done the same before, but didn't apear to do so this year, so again it isn't all that unbelievable.

 

Are we likely to see very low PS3 shipment figures for Q1 and stable figures for the 360?

 



 

TheTruthHurts! on 12 March 2009

Great job MS!

Know one thought the 360 would be almost 2 + mil (more) ahead than it was when the PS3 launched (I believe it was 5.2 mil).

Increasing the gap to 8 mil + consoles is an accomplishment, especially considering Sony was the leader for 2 generations and is now in 3rd. MS could possible have 1 mil consoles sold in Japan by the end of the month. That is huge considering the market! Many people on this site didnt think 1mil 360's in Japan would even happen.

Thanks for the charts as always kowenicki!



theRepublic on 12 March 2009

Very nice graphs, Kowenicki. 



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MikeB on 12 March 2009

@ nordlead

The channels aren't stuffed with PS3s around here (and never were) and if that's not the case elsewhere, then we compare the upcoming sold to retail data for March 2009 for both companies, I don't think people can indefinately claim 1 million extra PS3s on the shelves, that's just too big of an additional stock compared to the 360, which BTW is channel stuffed around here considering there are still plenty of holiday offer 360s lying around unsold.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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