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priteshmodi on 13 March 2009

Oh yea!!! I can't believe I forgot about that level. Maybe it was because I was too busy getting killed while trying to go through the entire level with a knife :P. If anyone wants to make the game a lot less serious and a ton more fun, try going through the levels with only a knife and the pistol. It makes it so awesome!

Yea, that level was actually impressive. I remember standing near the cloth on the train and watching it wave for a few minutes to see if it was prerendered or being calculated. I still have no idea. I'm sure the PR guys and the hardcore fanboys would say it's on the spot and people from other camps saying otherwise. Anyone with technical background that could shine some more light on it? Jetrii? lol



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vlad321 on 13 March 2009
mesoteto said:

There is so much fail in your post sir I almost had pop come out of my nose

 

 

 

“Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Do not worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and do not occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3.”

 

This has to have come from before the NXE or something b/c you can do that with the xbox now as well……FAIL +1

 

 

"2K Games went out of their way to make sure that the larger capacity of the Blu-ray was used to implement higher resolution textures across the title, as well as improve some of the in-game cutscenes. For the most part, you'll see these appear as a slightly sharper Rapture across the board, and you'll be able to pick up some features that look better than on the 360, such as pools of water or neon signage”

 

 

Thats funny b/c all I can remember is people making fun of the crappy texture work they got and how big daddies looked like crap on the ps3 compared to the 360 counter part….FAIL +1

 

“"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots features an aging and exhausted Solid Snake in the middle of a futuristic battlefield. In spite of his failing body, Snake is equipped with a crucial new device tentatively known as "OctoCamo," a high-tech suit that dynamically transforms its texture based on Snake's surroundings. This revolutionary new gameplay mechanic allows him to seamlessly blend into the environment, providing him with the means to stalk his enemies like never before. This latest chapter in Hideo Kojima's legendary tactical espionage action series marks the return of several characters from previous Metal Gear Solid games including Revolver Ocelot, Meryl Silverburgh, Naomi Hunter and Raiden, and features an unforgettable story that depicts the desperate state of the future as seen through the eyes of an older Solid Snake."

-Gamespot

What does this tag have to do with the graphics being uber better….hell in Tenchu series I was able to roll out a cloth that could blend me in with my sourndings…what are your trying to proove with this. If I am making an argument that my cat can fly I don’t bring in the fact that my car can go real fast and hit jumps that are kinda like flying…..FAIL +1

 

 

 

Best Graphics of E3 2008: Killzone 2

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37526.html

-Gametrailers

Best Graphics 2008: MGS4

http://www.spike.com/event/vga/page/vote/category/29527

-Spike

 

Your serious here?   You bring up two games that cant possiable have a comparison point on the 360 and say hey!!! See I am right here, this reeks of despiration  FAIL +1

 

 

“I could go on with this but the bottom line is that Eurogamer is at odds with almost all of the interwebs.”

 

Just b/c something is at odds with the rest does not make it wrong; I could say the sun is a giant ball of gas burning in the solar system. And I am sure you could grab hundred of different sources that say I am in the minority on that, but in the end we all know who is right…..FAIL +1

 

 

“Just Google best graphics and you'll find PS3 on top of the list.”

 

http://www.bestgraphics.net/

 

 

that’s kinda funny but that is not a ps3 site I got on the top of my list….maybe the interwebs is broken?.....FAIL +1

 

 

all in all guy you set out with some kinda goofy agenda and put your neck on the chopping block, I am sure in your mind you have prooven your ppoint…but really?

 

As I enjoyed a game of Left 4 Dead last night I realized that I was having a blast (working over nothing special) and the graphics were more then enough for me to have fun with hordes of zombies and guns blazing….i hope that someday you to will reach that point b/c you can make such better games if you were to just let graphics take a back seat to the whole package

 

 

 

QFT



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Stan85 on 13 March 2009
DirtyP2002 said:

IGN favoured the Xbox360 version of Resident Evil.

Damn you MS, you are paying IGN, Eurogamer and Gamespot!!!

GTA IV had a higher resolution on the Xbox360 with no install, just wanted to add this.

*Freeze* GTA 4 had 2xAA and 1280x720 (720p) on the 360 and 1152x640 with no AA on the ps3.

*Put your hands up in the air* GTA 4 was delayed because of the ps3 (hard to program for).

*You are under arest,sir!*

 



NNN2004 on 13 March 2009
Cueil said:
V-r0cK said:
antfromtashkent said:
NNN2004 said:

the problem is even if the difference looks like this:

 

sony fans will say its look better on the ps3 ?!

 

 OH YES! Im sure that a lot of PS3 vs 360 comparisons look like SNES vs 360... Brilliant! Speaking of which we should have a comparison of SF4 because i just must know weather Ken's red suit is redder on my console!

loll thats the dumbest comparison ever!!!!

 

 

 he wasn't being serious so much as making a point and that goes for alot of fanboys not just PS3 fanboys... it's just that PS3 fanboys here are of a lower grade than the ones anywere else except maybe official playstation forums

only the smart will get it

 



BMaker11 on 13 March 2009
selnor said:
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
MikeB if I was to compare the to flagship titles of both HD consoles for graphics, I'd rate like this. Bearing in mind this is based of visual representation and not how technical it was to achieve the result.

Animation = KZ2

Textures = Gears 2

Lighting = Gears 2 (sorry)

Visual effects = KZ2

Then I would break it down further.

Breakable sceneary = Gears 2

Amount on screen = Gears 2

water = Gears 2

The funny thing is KZ2 I think looks slightly better overall. Why. Purely because the effects and animation are so good, it lends the game to looking great in motion. But then theres also the point of how can we compare the 2? Epic have said time and time again in development they are not striving for photorealism becasue that is not the art style of the game. Evident in overly bulky characters to boot. But on the other hand it's obvious that KZ2 is aiming for photorealism easily visible through the near perfect animation.

You may say about HDR on PS3. Personally HDR and LDR is evidently the best in Halo 3. That game is abundant with it to the point of having 2 seperate frame buffers 1 for each. (the only console to use 2 buffers as well). Again people complain about Halo 3 graphics. God thank that Bungie didnt listen to these people. The art direction called for the graphics to be that way. And as Ive said 4 player split screen Halo 3 Campaign was what the fans wanted. The engine had to do that smoothly.

Like I said visually on screen what we see is important. Not how the dev got there.

Nowadays, every PS3 thread ends with KZ2 vs. Gears 2, so I've come to expect this. But if you give lighting to Gears, I'd have to tell you to slap yourself. That's just silly....

 

Sorry bro. It's only my opinion. Reason is, purely because the actual best graphical WOW moment for me still belongs to Gears 2. The first time you see the underground cave levels. The lighting down there is in a league of it's own. But thats that. :)

 

The part where he discusses lighting effects......there's simply no comparison

 



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selnor on 13 March 2009
Megadude said:
selnor said:
Megadude said:
Selnor just stop. Killzone 2 blows gears 2 out the water:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=61763

Better stick to comparing Gears 2 toResistance 2 (which does have split screen 8 player co-op and 60 player death match). There is no contest and you sound crazy just for trying.

 

 Dude say what you like. You think because your a blinded fanboy you can change my mind?

Go back to playing KZ2 and PS3. While I'll keep my head in reality and play both KZ2 and Gears of War 2. (add to that the awesome GOW3 and Ninja Blade very soon people.)

 

Yes God of War 3 will be amazing. Ninja Blade will flop and you have a Star Ocean: The last hope avatar (which is a horrid game) trying to tell me that Gears 2 looks better then Killzone 2. 

If I am a fanboy you are a raging crazed fanboy.

 

 

 Dude this post is everything thats wrong with you. Ninja Blade probably wont sell well. But if you care to take a look at the demo impressions, it's a very excellent game. Another great game that Hack n slash lovers should not miss. The deom of Ninja Blade is pure win. Your post shows why everything you say will be one sided fanboyism.



selnor on 13 March 2009
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
MikeB if I was to compare the to flagship titles of both HD consoles for graphics, I'd rate like this. Bearing in mind this is based of visual representation and not how technical it was to achieve the result.

Animation = KZ2

Textures = Gears 2

Lighting = Gears 2 (sorry)

Visual effects = KZ2

Then I would break it down further.

Breakable sceneary = Gears 2

Amount on screen = Gears 2

water = Gears 2

The funny thing is KZ2 I think looks slightly better overall. Why. Purely because the effects and animation are so good, it lends the game to looking great in motion. But then theres also the point of how can we compare the 2? Epic have said time and time again in development they are not striving for photorealism becasue that is not the art style of the game. Evident in overly bulky characters to boot. But on the other hand it's obvious that KZ2 is aiming for photorealism easily visible through the near perfect animation.

You may say about HDR on PS3. Personally HDR and LDR is evidently the best in Halo 3. That game is abundant with it to the point of having 2 seperate frame buffers 1 for each. (the only console to use 2 buffers as well). Again people complain about Halo 3 graphics. God thank that Bungie didnt listen to these people. The art direction called for the graphics to be that way. And as Ive said 4 player split screen Halo 3 Campaign was what the fans wanted. The engine had to do that smoothly.

Like I said visually on screen what we see is important. Not how the dev got there.

Nowadays, every PS3 thread ends with KZ2 vs. Gears 2, so I've come to expect this. But if you give lighting to Gears, I'd have to tell you to slap yourself. That's just silly....

 

Sorry bro. It's only my opinion. Reason is, purely because the actual best graphical WOW moment for me still belongs to Gears 2. The first time you see the underground cave levels. The lighting down there is in a league of it's own. But thats that. :)

 

The part where he discusses lighting effects......there's simply no comparison

 

You cannot tell me that video is not one sided?

Funny when a decent quality video is used, all of a sudden Gears 2 lighting looks amazing. Also side by side the games look damn close. Do you see my point. This video is basically for you though, as I have seen both on the same HDTV so I know that thers bugger all in it.

 



richardhutnik on 13 March 2009
Megadude said:
They gave Failo 3 a 10 and MGS4 an 8?!?!?!?!?!?! LMAOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I knew they were trash but I didn't realise how much they stank.

Failo?  Wow, I love your objectivity.

 



richardhutnik on 13 March 2009
outlawauron said:

The sources you cite for PS3's supreriority - those are definitely opinion.

Resolution doesn't always make the game too much better. CoD4 looks much better than many 720p games despite being like 640p or something like that.

I have yet to see a football game that looks better than what I see when I watch NFL football on a non-high def TV.

 



Badassbab on 13 March 2009

GTA IV...Bioshock? Which version looks best??? GTA IV is based on one's preference, Bioshock game out a year later....is that all? You presumably expect us to take IGN's word but not Eurogamers? BTW you do realise that Eurogamers H2H is far far more thorough than IGN's right? Riiiiight....

Jeez someone fell out the wrong side of the bed when this was posted....