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noname2200 said:

P.S. Who the hell is complaining about Excitebots?!?!

The "ZOMG MINIGAMES!" crowd mostly. =P

 



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I was wondering when the sequel to UC would be announced. Hopefully a good third person survival horror game will come eventually. I got nothing against other people getting the games they want, but ultimately prefer the games I want. I just kind of hope this game is better than UC. I really couldn't stand that game.



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GamingChartzFTW said:
I want another Resident Evil Rail Shooter.

Umbrella Chronicles was Great!! :D

 

 yes. Wii fans should be happy.Get this game, I'll rent it.



noname2200 said:

That's...not a very satisfying reason. "We held back on the original, so we'd have material for the sequel"? It sounds a lot like "planned obsolescence."

I'll concede that the title leaves open the possibility that this isn't about Umbrella, but I'd be (a bit) surprised if it wasn't. Guess we'll find out in under 48 hours, eh?

As to the Dead Space comment, I'm mostly inclined to agree, and I find it amusing that we're acting like we're on opposite ends in this discussion when we're both looking forward to it. That said, I feel compelled to point out the other side's version of this story, because I DO find it understandable. As usual, famousringo was more eloquent in expressing it than I was, so I'll use his words here (from the Dead Space thread):

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1799975

I think people are just sick of getting the bait & switch with every franchise that comes to Wii. It's a parade of genre-busting spinoffs with little in common with the parent franchise besides the IP, and low budgets in common with each other.

Hey, you're getting Dead Space, a third person horror/shooter. Just kidding, it's a rail shooter.

Hey, you're getting a new Resident Evil. A third person survival/horror game? Nope, yours is a rail shooter.

Hey, you're getting a new Soul Calibur fighter! And by fighter, we mean a cheapass hack & slash.

How about a new Castlevania game? Platforming and powerups? No, yours will be a 3D fighting game!

In short, this game is the latest in a series of bait-n-switch that third parties have been pulling on Wii owners, and I can see why it would get tiresome. Personally, I like light-gun shooters, so those don't bug me. I also liked Dead Rising: Chop 'Til You Drop. But I was miffed that the Castlevania platformer and the Soul Calibur fighter went elsewhere, and if I didn't like the spinoffs that I did I'd probably be solidly in the other side's camp.

You and I may disagree with the sentiment, but it's hard to say it's not understandable.

 

P.S. Who the hell is complaining about Excitebots?!?!

 

Alright, here's my attempt to discuss all of said points. And don't worry Noname, I know we're just having a discussion and probably agree on a lot more than we disagree.

First point - the Holding back argument. I don't consider it that way at all, but if you're experimenting with what could become a new franchise, including all possible content kind of kills your chance to do so. For instance, you suggested that instead of 4 and 5 this game will probably be all about RE 2. But your reasoning behind it is that if Umbrella Chronicles can skip RE2, Darkside Chronicles(DSC) can skip 4 and 5. But if RE 2 was skipped in UC for a reason other than future iterations, wouldn't it be skipped in DSC as well?

Besides, they're not going to go from a game based around the story of 3 games (with a level of new content) to a game based entirely around the story of one. There are going to be at least a couple RE chapters in here, and Veronica, 2, 4 and 5 are all the most likely ones. I doubt they'd be giving us gun survivor levels.

As for Umbrella. Didn't the first game end with a chapter titled "The fall of Umbrella" or something equally fatalistic? Of course the company will be in the game because their tied so tightly to the RE story line, but the title of this new outing alone tells us that Umbrella isn't the main focus. 

 

      Ok now for the Deadspace stuff. I understand people that have unhappy feelings towards the deadspace announcement. I was one of them. I still think it's going to be a great game. But remember, at the time of the announcement there was a complete meltdown. Of course, now we're talking about not just Resident Evil, but the Resident Evil Chronicles series. This isn't a slap or a bait and switch, this is a sequel to a very successful and much enjoyed game. Lots of people loved REUC. and the game was no slouch in the effort/design department. There really isn't much bait and switch here. It's sort of bait and bait. You liked our game? Here's a sequel! That seems pretty good to me.

And finally with the Excitebots comment - Did you see the "Excitebots boxart" thread? Holly hell that was a messy time! People freaked out and kicked puppies.  I'm just noticing that people have a tendency to jump to a conclusion and then take that conclusion very seriously, when the end product will probably be really good.

 



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stof said:

Anyways, this thread is looking a lot like the Excitebots or DeadSpace: Extraction threads. And much like those two, people are over reacting and will feel a lot different when the game actually comes out. Umbrella Chronicles was a terrific and well made game. Complaining about a sequel is kind of goofy.

 The Deadspace meltdown was justified though. They announce Deadspace on Wii and then give a completely different game. Excitebots and this is just senseless whining. RE:UC was extremely successful and a sequel should have been expected.



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Gnizmo said:
stof said:

Anyways, this thread is looking a lot like the Excitebots or DeadSpace: Extraction threads. And much like those two, people are over reacting and will feel a lot different when the game actually comes out. Umbrella Chronicles was a terrific and well made game. Complaining about a sequel is kind of goofy.

 The Deadspace meltdown was unjustified though. They announce a late port on Wii and then give a completely new game. Excitebots and this is just senseless whining. RE:UC was extremely successful and a sequel should have been expected.

 

You are a part of the over reaction to Dead Space



I said it before and I'll say it again. If it's a rail shooter I'm not buying it. I already have House of the Dead and RE: UC. Bring me Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, a real RE game, or something else that isn't a cash-in. Hopefully the game is not a rail shooter, but if it is. You'll get no sale to me Capcom.



scottie said: 

You are a part of the over reaction to Dead Space

 Two challenges for you. Find even 4 posts where I mantion Desdspace Wii for the first part. For the second part explain how it was anything but a bait and switch. Announcing one game, and then delivering another will always cause a justified meltdown.



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I still don't get this whole "cash in" angle.
Is it a cash in because it will recount story events from existing games in the series? Because then REmake was just as cheap cash in.

Is it a cash in because it's a rail shooter? Because then RE:UC was a cheap cash in and that game rocked.

Or is it a cash in because Railshooters are so short? Because Umbrella Chronicles had hours and hours of gameplay.

Is it a cash in because it isn't RE 5? The game that was announced for PS3 and 360 long before the Revolution had even been unveiled? Because that's just silly.

I'd just like someone to explain to me how a sequel to a very successful and fun game that had lots of effort and polish is going to be a cheap cash in.



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

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