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Parokki on 10 March 2009
highwaystar101 said:
coolestguyever said:
Now don't get me wrong, I believe in God, but idiots like this guy make us Christians look like idiots.

Just so you know not all religious people are idiots, just some.

Haha, don't worry. I think we all know 99.9% are not like this guy and understand the laws of thermodynamics.

 

Only one out of a thousand Christians doesn't have a perfect understanding of everything related to thermodynamics? Shit, that's a pretty hefty claim you're making there. ^^



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highwaystar101 on 10 March 2009
Parokki said:
highwaystar101 said:
coolestguyever said:
Now don't get me wrong, I believe in God, but idiots like this guy make us Christians look like idiots.

Just so you know not all religious people are idiots, just some.

Haha, don't worry. I think we all know 99.9% are not like this guy and understand the laws of thermodynamics.

 

Only one out of a thousand Christians doesn't have a perfect understanding of everything related to thermodynamics? Shit, that's a pretty hefty claim you're making there. ^^

 

Lol, you know what I meant. They either A. Don't understand so they don't post or B. understand so they post correct info.



appolose on 10 March 2009
rocketpig said:
akuma587 said:
appolose said:
^ But in that case, we could never use scientific laws, since we could always discover something later.

That's like saying we shouldn't use computers because we will invent better computers in the future. 

Why would we use science in the first place if it wasn't constantly improving?  Isn't that the purpose of science, to continually strive towards a greater understanding of natural phenomena?  You say it like its a BAD thing that science continues to refine and develop new models.  To me, I am happy that scientists are willing to abandon older theories for new ones because it means they are making progress.

On top of that, you don't have to understand the forces that create things like gravity to understand the rules and principles that emanate from said force.

After all, several hundred years later, we still think Newton was right. His laws still stand, even though we don't fully comprehend the forces that cause his laws to be true.

 

Perhaps there was a misunderstanding: I was saying Rocketpig's objection would make science useless, as his objection was (I believe) that that guy's argument would be flawed whether or not the earth was a closed system on the basis that we haven't discovered everything, which would mean that we couldn't use (or apply, or deduct, if you will) science for anything because we could always be wrong or not completely informed.

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colonelstubbs on 10 March 2009

Whats a sun?



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Soleron on 10 March 2009

Also, the Second Law only applies to closed systems as a whole. Local entropy can reverse temporarily (i.e things can become more ordered and complex) as long as the average disorder in the universe increases.