Well they did made profit lately. If they continiue they wil make profit of PS3 in 2, maybe 3 years.

''And it will remain a marketshare failure until it beats the PS2.''

So i guess Wii will be failure until it beats NES

Really 2-3 billion.  When the PS2's largest profit was 1 billion one year, it was the most successful console ever.  Not going to happen.

No... until it beats the gamecube.  Did you totally miss the sports team analogy?  Your success is based on your predecessor console because that shows where you were headed.  I mean it's common sense.

BladeOfGod, you are completely missing the point. He is saying the PS3 is a failure for Sony, the X360 and Wii are a success for Microsoft and Nintendo respectively. It does not mean the gamers will not like the consoles. That's not what it's about. The PS3 can give a good gaming experience, so does the X360 and the Wii, the difference is that the PS3 is costing Sony money and also costing them market share, while the X360 cost MS money, but they did increase market share and now are making money too since a few months. The Wii is a big success because it always did both.

About the game sales, Sony is not selling enough games to cover all their costs. Far from it. Killzone 2 probably won't be earned back, and that's with a lot of games. Especially since Sony needs to pay devs more because of more time/resources than MS because of the harder hardware to develop for. It's simply a loss/loss for Sony. Again, that does not mean it's a loss/loss for gamers.

Still the ps3 has legs and a increase in internal memmory and a better gpu and snap you have a ps4 BC, and costs for pennies o the dollar compared to PS3 it could be a quick turnaround profit wise fo sony.

Also maybe bump the spu's on the cell clock speed too if its possible.

and bluray costs wll be down they could produce those for $300.00 out the door with gpu being the most expensive part.

still this generation sets up well for PS4 if sony remains in the business

 I would disagree, I think they are all very valid reasons.

3: “Killer-apps”: too few, too late:

they key words on this one are "too few, too late"  It has taken sony a long time to get to where they actually have some decent games, for the longest time those games were on the horizon and sony fans just had to "wait till next year."  It took Sony too long to get those games out and they lost a lot of marketshare because of it.  so I would say yes, 3 is a very valid reason for them failing.

4: weak ports:

This is pretty well documented and I don't see how you can't see this as an issue.  I would say at least 80% of multiplatform games are better on the 360 in some form or another.  They might be doing better now then they use to, but that doesn't mean that the ps3 library of games isn't full of awful ports.  Definetly a valid reason.

5: still no strong game library:

This one might be a little iffy, but I would still agree with it.  When I walk into a game store and see 8 4 foot sections for xbox 360 and only 4 foot sections for ps3 It is apparent that the 360 has more games for it.  Of course, it has been out a year longer and I do live in america where there is double the install base.  These might be reason's that stores carry more 360 products, however, doesn't change the fact that there are more games available on the 360.  So it's a good point, although i would reword to say "not as big a game library."

7: developers bag of hurt:

I don't know where you get off saying this isn't an issue?  With all the rants and sony themselves saying that they made it hard to program for on purpose, yes this is an issue.  This is why all the multiplat's are inferior and why it takes so freaking long to make a ps3 game.  This is why all the "killer aps" didn't start coming out till over 2 years after launch.  Valid

8: Sony's arrogance:

Yes they are and continue to be.  However, this one is more directed towards the ps3's launch and how sony's attitude basically killed all their momentum they had from the ps2.  They thought they could stick a product out there and label it playstation and it would sell no matter what.  That was not the case and it forced sony to cut price quickly and shuffle their sku's pretty much constantly to try and find something that could sell and not lose as much money.  I would say this is one of their more epic fail's here.  Very valid

9: controller snafu:

I would give you this isn't a very big issue.  I think most people were happy just to have wireless controllers when the system came out.  I just wish sony would change the freaking design of their controllers, they have had the same design since the original playstation.  It's time to inovate already sony.  However, I don't think this is a cause for their failing, so there ya go, only one of these 10 is not valid.

Well, if you put it that way every console in the world is failure compared to PS2, not just PS3.so sony should sell over 150 million PS3s because that'S the only way for PS3 NOT to be a failure. And i guess PS4 should sell 200 million and PS5 over 250 million. How its Sony's fault PS2 did such a great job? Just because your predecessor did a better job, doeent mean you are a failure. Actaully i think DS is the only one who can outsell PS2 and ITS A HANDHELD.

Well, Sony is also making money lately,and PlayStation brand made so much money for Sony so its time PlayStation to take some of it back.PS1 actaully saved Sony in 1995. Microsoft on the other hand has been loosing on Xbox since its launch, but they still made some profit lately for a couple of months. And it took them 7 years to make that small profit on xbox. I am sure PS3 will do the same but faster. Just wait. Blu ray sales have already increased for 800% in Japan, software sales have increased for 65%, Cell processor didn't even show 50% of its power, Gran Turismo 5 ( best selling PlayStation game ) its not even launched yet, PlayStation Network is growing very very fast...

No it actually does.  If you don't match or surpass your predecessor you are a failure.  Thats how the world works.

So every Nintendo console besides NES and wii is a failure? Thanks for pointing that out

The NES wasn't the Wii's predecessor  Gamecube was... what aren't you getting?

Either your trolling or very dense.  I'm not sure which.