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Khuutra said:
Senlis said:
Soleron said:
Khuutra said:
All right, so if my computer has a single partition (which it does), I would need to first split the hard drive into two partitions, reinstall Windows on one, and then Ubuntu on the other?

 

 No; ignore Senlis - he's making it uneccessarily complicated. The Ubuntu disc will DO IT FOR YOU if you only have one Windows partition at the moment. Select "shrink main partition and use freed space" and it will create the partition without damaging Windows.

Listen to Soleron, he knows more about the process than I do.

You guys say this, and I've gone through the picture tutorials to show where the option should pop up, but that option is not there for me, for some reason. All I can do is either use the whole disc in a guided way or manually use the whole disc.

Right. You'll have to do it manually, but you still don't have to reinstall. Boot up the LiveCD, go to System -> Adminstration -> Partition Manager or something like that, and it'll bring up GParted.

Select the Windows partition and shrink it (should be fairly obvious; if you see something not right then don't do it) to a size that will leave it with a few GB left over. Then create two new partitions filling the blank space, one about 4GB and one filling the rest of the space. Select "apply" and it will make the changes.

Then when you use the installer, select manual. Select the large partition as "/" and the small partition as "swap". Make sure it's only going to change those two partitions and not ouch your Windows one.

 



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Gippon said:
Soleron said:
Gippon said:
Putting Linux on my laptop caused it to go in for 6 weeks of repairs >.<

Um, how?

 

 

Well I created a partition and then gave it 40GB, installed Fedora and it was fine. But after seeing my mates Kubuntu, I prefered the KDE distro and the wireless capabilities of it far out paced Fedora which was to be honest utterly shit with wireless connections. So I got rid of Fedora and then installed Kubuntu which I thought was fine apart from the fact that it would not play sound for some reason (probably lacking drivers). I didn't use it because of that reason and thought there was no point in having it on my HDD so I decided to get rid of it and then merge the partitions together. After I did this Windows decided to have a spasm, probably some sort of punishment for even daring to stray, and after 4 Blue Screens it finally got to the stage were it would not boot. Went to get it repaired and the shops awful customer service ended up with me going back and forth for two weeks until they finally took it off me and had it for around four weeks before finally giving it back to me. All they had done by the looks of things was spent £130 on new RAM and put a shit load of sticky documents on the lid >.< To be honest I would get Linux again if the sound worked because I use it at Uni and the bash command is far superioir to that of command line from Windows!

 

@ SuperDave: Yes I think it was Bill Gates that caused it after discovering I had strayed away from his baby!

Pre-Fedora 7 this was very much the case sadly.



Soleron said:
Khuutra said:
Senlis said:
Soleron said:
Khuutra said:
All right, so if my computer has a single partition (which it does), I would need to first split the hard drive into two partitions, reinstall Windows on one, and then Ubuntu on the other?

 

 No; ignore Senlis - he's making it uneccessarily complicated. The Ubuntu disc will DO IT FOR YOU if you only have one Windows partition at the moment. Select "shrink main partition and use freed space" and it will create the partition without damaging Windows.

Listen to Soleron, he knows more about the process than I do.

You guys say this, and I've gone through the picture tutorials to show where the option should pop up, but that option is not there for me, for some reason. All I can do is either use the whole disc in a guided way or manually use the whole disc.

Right. You'll have to do it manually, but you still don't have to reinstall. Boot up the LiveCD, go to System -> Adminstration -> Partition Manager or something like that, and it'll bring up GParted.

Select the Windows partition and shrink it (should be fairly obvious; if you see something not right then don't do it) to a size that will leave it with a few GB left over. Then create two new partitions filling the blank space, one about 4GB and one filling the rest of the space. Select "apply" and it will make the changes.

Then when you use the installer, select manual. Select the large partition as "/" and the small partition as "swap". Make sure it's only going to change those two partitions and not ouch your Windows one.

...I will try this out this afternoon, thank you.



Khuutra said:
Soleron said:
Khuutra said:

You guys say this, and I've gone through the picture tutorials to show where the option should pop up, but that option is not there for me, for some reason. All I can do is either use the whole disc in a guided way or manually use the whole disc.

Right. You'll have to do it manually, but you still don't have to reinstall. Boot up the LiveCD, go to System -> Adminstration -> Partition Manager or something like that, and it'll bring up GParted.

Select the Windows partition and shrink it (should be fairly obvious; if you see something not right then don't do it) to a size that will leave it with a few GB left over. Then create two new partitions filling the blank space, one about 4GB and one filling the rest of the space. Select "apply" and it will make the changes.

Then when you use the installer, select manual. Select the large partition as "/" and the small partition as "swap". Make sure it's only going to change those two partitions and not ouch your Windows one.

...I will try this out this afternoon, thank you.

Aw nutbunnies. I tried to resize, and am unable to do so using the partition editor. So I look up the information on my disk because there's bound to be some clue in here, and I get this:

Warning:
[jargon jibber jargon]

Current volume size: 118518026752 byts (118519 MB)
Current device Size: 118518027264 (118519 MB)
ERROR: Hopeless many bad sectors has been detected!

WARNING: The disk has many bad sectors. This means physical damage on the disk surface cause by deterioration, manufacturing faults or other reason. We suggest to get a replacement disk as soon as possible.

I sureh ope this is something I can just fix with canned air...



Khuutra said:
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Aw nutbunnies. I tried to resize, and am unable to do so using the partition editor. So I look up the information on my disk because there's bound to be some clue in here, and I get this:

Warning:
[jargon jibber jargon]

Current volume size: 118518026752 byts (118519 MB)
Current device Size: 118518027264 (118519 MB)
ERROR: Hopeless many bad sectors has been detected!

WARNING: The disk has many bad sectors. This means physical damage on the disk surface cause by deterioration, manufacturing faults or other reason. We suggest to get a replacement disk as soon as possible.

I sureh ope this is something I can just fix with canned air...

That's why the option to resize didn't appear... Better you found that out before the drive died! Back up all of your data just in case. Also, find some other program to confirm that Linux is right in the diagnosis. Windows' chkdsk is a start.

 



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Soleron said:
Khuutra said:
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Aw nutbunnies. I tried to resize, and am unable to do so using the partition editor. So I look up the information on my disk because there's bound to be some clue in here, and I get this:

Warning:
[jargon jibber jargon]

Current volume size: 118518026752 byts (118519 MB)
Current device Size: 118518027264 (118519 MB)
ERROR: Hopeless many bad sectors has been detected!

WARNING: The disk has many bad sectors. This means physical damage on the disk surface cause by deterioration, manufacturing faults or other reason. We suggest to get a replacement disk as soon as possible.

I sureh ope this is something I can just fix with canned air...

That's why the option to resize didn't appear... Better you found that out before the drive died! Back up all of your data.

Crap.

What are my options for a replacement drive in a Dell laptop?



I am tempted to put Kubuntu on my other laptop which currently has XP on it and is 4 years old with the following stats: 512MB RAM, 1.8GHz CPU, 60GB HDD. Considering I don't use it at all I am thinking that I may as well do something with it...



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Khuutra said:
I'm.... downloading Ubuntu again.

I'm gonna see if I can figure out how to get the partition manager in the installer to work this time.

Guess I better defrag first!

You dont have to repartition, you can use the ubuntu wubi installer, it installs inside windows and can be run like a separate partition but without the risk. And the ubuntu live cd has gparted (partition manager) which allows you to shrink an NTFS partition safely if you want a permanent linux partition (which has benefits like having a swap partition in addition to better performance).

 



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Khuutra said:

Crap.

What are my options for a replacement drive in a Dell laptop?

A Dell laptop's hard drive should be like any other hard drive.  If it has a bunch of pins, it is an IDE HDD.  If it has two 'L' shaped connections, it is SATA.

If you have an IDE/SATA to USB adaptor, you could hook your current hard drive to another computer and use Seatools to test it.  I don't suppose you have one.